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re: Draft Education Dept. budget to possibly cut Public Service Loan Forgiveness Program

Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:40 am to
Posted by TigerTattle
Out of Town
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:40 am to
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Well unless they work 120 months in a public service job, then they don't qualify for forgiveness
How would the lender know that when the borrower isn't required to submit verification?

More info needed on this. I'll research it later.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:45 am to
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They make about 50k a year but don't have to pay their 200k student loans they owe.
They are still required to make 120 payments.
Posted by Superior Pariah
Member since Jun 2009
8457 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:45 am to
So because of anecdotal evidence, you don't support something like this?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:46 am to
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How would the lender know that when the borrower isn't required to submit verification?
Well they should have to verify it. If that's not the case, then that's an easy fix.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12033 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:49 am to
The only people whose education I'll pay for are my children. You borrow, you pay back or you face the consequences. No free money! Period.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:50 am to
The application which presumably determines eligibility is set to be rolled out this year. No one has actually been forgiven under this program yet.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12033 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:51 am to
This enticement is not going happen with free money from me, the taxpayer.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:53 am to
The negative impact of the VA alone should be enough reason to think this is stupid.

This is only going to result in shittier public employees or higher salaries.

If they want to cut 501(c)(3)s from the program I would be ok with that.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:53 am to
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This enticement is not going happen with free money from me, the taxpayer.
So let's not fund those school choice programs; I assume you agree.

In fact, then let's abolish all taxes altogether. I'm good with that.
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 10:55 am
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12033 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:54 am to
NO comparison!
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:55 am to
If we got the federal government out of student loans everyone would be better off. I'm not sure how cutting PSLF is an "answer" to the issue the government created in the first place though.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112734 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:55 am to
These people have to make a decade's worth of payments and are working for under market value. Do you want your D.A's office to have good prosecutors? Your local VA hospital to have good doctors? Etc
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112734 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:56 am to
It sounds good to morons
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:57 am to
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NO comparison!
What is no comparison? The loan forgiveness is essentially a benefit for public service, contingent on 120 months of repayment. So why would you have a problem with that, and not have a problem with the salaries and other benefits your taxes pay for?

And you are against the funding proposal for those school choice programs, right?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43390 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:58 am to
First, I don't think the federal government should be in the student loan business.

However, while it is, the public service loan program is one of the few programs the DoEd managed to get right.

Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12033 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:59 am to
It's a free market. They need to go and work wherever the pay is right. I will contribute to charities of my choice, not charities/causes picked out by the government. My local DA's office is not one of my chosen charities, and I already pay a boatload of state and local taxes.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:59 am to
I utilize this plan after taking a lower paying non-profit job. will never vote GOP ever again if this happens
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:00 am to
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My local DA's office is not one of my chosen charities, and I already pay a boatload of state and local taxes.
So then you support the abolishment of taxes that pay for those jobs and services, correct? No public funding for police, schools, etc.
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 11:01 am
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:00 am to
I mean the taxpayers foot the bill whenever a deadbeat simply can't repay his or her loans. Trump hasn't done anything to fix that (like getting rid of federal loans).

Why penalize the people who are often working for below market value in important roles? They are at least trying.
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 11:01 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112734 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:01 am to
You should stick to chain emails, clearly you are out of your element. I'd love to hear an explanation on how and a D.A's office, which carries out one of the few government services actually needed, is a charity? Also, I'm amused you left the VA example untouched.
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