- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
0
Posted on 8/29/22 at 12:56 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
There just is not much incentive for a member of the filter team to ignore his sworn duties/obligations.
ELL
OH
ELL
Posted on 8/29/22 at 12:59 pm to AggieHank86
quote:Yes, you’d be fine with the prosecution looking at all your clients privileged documents.
No. Like it or not, the DoJ and the FBI are not just “opponents” in the adversary system, they are tasked with doing justice.
You just admitted it by stating it’s fine for the DOJ and FBI to be both adversary AND investigators.
if you’re ok with it being done in this case, you can’t argue intelligently it doesn’t apply when you don’t agree with it.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:05 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
No, they legally took possession of documents pursuant to a validly-issued warrant,
Just like that FISA warrant was validly issued? You take their word for far more than it is worth.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:06 pm to Strannix
OUr government is run by the scum of the earth.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:09 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
There just is not much incentive for a member of the filter team to ignore his sworn duties/obligations.
If aliens ever came to Earth and questioned why Lawyers are so hated, one would only need to point to this dishonest, bootlicking shite right here.
Trum-Penis Envy will ALWAYS make supposedly intelligent people say and do incredibly stupid things.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:10 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
No, they legally took possession of documents pursuant to a validly-issued warrant,
Just like the warrants from the FISA judge.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:16 pm to Strannix
quote:Is the inventory and chain of custody such that they are unable to plant something that was not from Mar a Lago?
So they illegally siezed and looked at privileged documents.....ruh roh
Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:18 pm to Strannix
From the article
Not the DOJ investigators.
quote:
a privilege review team went through the documents.
Not the DOJ investigators.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:18 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
No, they legally took possession of documents pursuant to a validly-issued warrant,
Were his passports on the warrant too?
Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:21 pm to Mephistopheles
quote:
Not the DOJ investigators.
Who appointed the privilege review team?
Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:22 pm to Mephistopheles
quote:
privilege review team
They were DOJ. The FBI has already said they were.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:26 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
There just is not much incentive for a member of the filter team to ignore his sworn duties/obligations.
Alternative universe.
Reality:
Social praise
Promotion
Book deals
Interviews
With no consequence
Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:33 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
No, they legally took possession of documents pursuant to a validly-issued warrant, and they had a filter team review those documents to assure that the investigative team would NOT have access to privileged information, per SOP.
You can't truly think this is appropriate? I might as well give up my criminal defense practice and switch to Estate Planning if the Government can just seize and review all of my work product as part of SOP and determine later what THEY think is privileged. The 4th and 6th Amendments don't exist anymore.
Think like a lawyer and not a partisan.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:46 pm to llfshoals
AggieTrans is a liar, its that simple
Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:49 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Like it or not, the DoJ and the FBI are not just “opponents” in the adversary system, they are tasked with doing justice. They often are expected to perform multiple roles in an investigation.
Do you agree with the practice?
Posted on 8/29/22 at 1:51 pm to CountryVolFan
quote:You are talking about the Cohen raid, which is an entirely different kettle of fish. If law enforcement is planning to execute a warrant on a law office, they should request a special master when requesting the warrant, IMO.
You can't truly think this is appropriate? I might as well give up my criminal defense practice and switch to Estate Planning if the Government can just seize and review all of my work product as part of SOP and determine later what THEY think is privileged. The 4th and 6th Amendments don't exist anymore.
This is the execution of a warrant against a suspect himself, not his counsel. ANY warrant MIGHT lead to seizure of privileged materials. Execute a warrant for the file cabinet of a gun runner. There MIGHT be a folder in that cabinet containing letters from his lawyer … or priest … or physician.
Is it really your position that ALL documents seized under EVERY warrant must go to a special master? Do you have any idea of the delays that would insert into the justice system? The costs?
If really comes down to whether you trust our institutions. Do you trust public servants to fulfill their oaths not to cross-contaminate? If so, a filter team is USUALLY a reasonable solution to a nearly-insoluble challenge. If you do not trust the system, there is nothing that will ever satisfy you anyway.
There will obviously be exceptions where something like a special master is warranted. I have said a dozen times that THIS is such a case.
Everyone in this thread is laser-focused upon Trump and not upon the broader concepts.
This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:04 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Is it really your position that ALL documents seized under EVERY warrant must go to a special master? Do you have any idea of the delays that would insert into the justice system? The costs?
And? What cost is too high to stop irreparable harm?
This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:04 pm to AggieHank86
You are an insufferable boot licker.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:15 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
No, they legally took possession of documents pursuant to a validly-issued warrant, and they had a filter team review those documents to assure that the investigative team would NOT have access to privileged information, per SOP.
You are such a terrible lawyer
No way in hell does a warrant allow them to remove privileged information, so they can review it. Especially if it also falls under attorney/client privilege
You dont get a warrant, only to go on a fishing expedition
quote:
Fourth Amendment
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
You dont walk out with something, only to say "Sorry, my bad." Especially in a presidents home
Page 3 of 4
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News