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re: DOJ already looked at every document including privileged
Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:17 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:17 pm to AggieHank86
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You are talking about the Cohen raid, which is an entirely different kettle of fish. If law enforcement is planning to execute a warrant on a law office, they should request a special master when requesting the warrant, IMO.
This is the execution of a warrant against a suspect himself, not his counsel. ANY warrant MIGHT lead to seizure of privileged materials. Execute a warrant for the file cabinet of a gun runner. There MIGHT be a folder in that cabinet containing letters from his lawyer … or priest … or physician.
I'm also talking about this case... and cases similar to the Alex Jones case (but not that case) where the state "happens upon" privileged communications. There MUST exist a duty for them to IMMEDIATELY stop review of those communication for protections to still exist. There are inmates clients in my county who've had our communication writings opened but not read by jailers and the judges had conniption fits without an motions even being filed. The state listens to inmate phone calls being made to everyone but attorneys (They say), but I have seriously considered testing this and requiring arduous proof be provided that the state has zero access to these calls.
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Is it really your position that ALL documents seized under EVERY warrant must go to a special master? Do you have any idea of the delays that would insert into the justice system? The costs?
No... It's my position that the Government not review privileged material. The onus is on them to ensure that they do not. They are required to build the hedges and ensure the safeguards are in place. If they fail to do so, they poison the well.
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If really comes down to whether you trust our institutions. Do you trust public servants to fulfill their oaths not to cross-contaminate? If so, a filter team is USUALLY a reasonable solution to a nearly-insoluble challenge. If you do not trust the system, there is nothing that will ever satisfy you anyway.
No... It comes down to whether defendants, accused citizens, or suspects, have Constitutional privileges. They absolutely do. Just because the investigating agency is a 3 letter monster and not the Knox County Sheriff, that doesn't change.
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Everyone in this thread is laser-focused upon Trump and not upon the broader concepts.
That certainly includes you... You have ignored all Constitutional safeguards for the accused. I'd LOVE to see this kind of abuse reach SCOTUS with a high profile Defendant like Trump so that agencies know that can't pull this crap on my clients who make $55K a year.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:20 pm to BBONDS25
quote:And what is the “irreparable harm,” if the system works and there is no cross-contamination of the investigative team?
What cost is too high to stop irreparable harm?
We are right back to “what can you do, if you do not trust the process?”
If you do not trust the process, no ADDITIONAL step added to the process will ever be adequate for you.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:23 pm to AggieHank86
Is it sound wisdom to take the word of the fox concerning the chicken koop?
Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:25 pm to AggieHank86
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If really comes down to whether you trust our institutions.
The DOJ has forfeited that trust when it comes to anything remotely political.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:31 pm to Flats
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The DOJ has forfeited that trust when it comes to anything remotely political.
They've cried 'wolf' once too often.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:38 pm to AggieHank86
hmmmmmmmmm........
No bias here buddy!
https://twitter.com/JustTheNews/status/1564342096223404037?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
No bias here buddy!
https://twitter.com/JustTheNews/status/1564342096223404037?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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ormer Washington Field Office Special Agent in Charge Tim Thibault was reportedly escorted out of the Bureau's headquarters on Friday, amid whistleblower allegations that he showed political bias in his handling of politically sensitive investigations.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:40 pm to AggieHank86
Aren't you the self proclaimed libertarian? I think we all know you are paid to be here muddying up things. The question is by whom?
This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 8/29/22 at 4:12 pm to AggieHank86
quote:You're getting your arse kicked so hard in this thread and I'm only on page 3. Lol
Everyone in this thread is laser-focused upon Trump and not upon the broader concepts.
This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 8/29/22 at 4:18 pm to Mephistopheles
quote:total bullshite lie. Normal for you
a privilege review team went through the documents.
Not the DOJ investigators.
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According to the filing, the DOJ's privilege review team "identified a limited set of materials that potentially contain attorney-client privileged information, completed its review of those materials, and is in the process of following the procedures set forth in paragraph 84 of the search warrant affidavit to address potential privilege disputes, if any."
Posted on 8/29/22 at 4:18 pm to AggieHank86
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processes themselves were somehow irregular.
this whole process has been very irregular and full of lies from all sides including the current president.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 4:24 pm to UncleFestersLegs
quote:You’re funny.
You're getting your arse kicked so hard in this thread
Posted on 8/29/22 at 4:27 pm to RobbBobb
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You are such a terrible lawyer
He's not a Lawyer, never has been.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 4:34 pm to AggieHank86
quote:I know you're just doing your thing but the number of boots up your arse has gotta be getting uncomfortable. You should probably stick to explaining why children and stripper poles is ok
You’re funny.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:06 pm to AggieHank86
Thank you. Not a big fan of it, should have a neutral party with the defendants attorneys and prosecuting or investigating agency present
Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:10 pm to xxGEAUXxx
Agents are finished sniffing through the docs, but are still sniffing Melania's underwear.
This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:17 pm to Goforit
I wonder if the team lead , Tim Thibault, who was fired today had anything to do with the taint review, or selecting those who did. If so, oh boy!
Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:26 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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the DOJ's privilege review team
Come on, man. They're totally fair and honest, and their political bias played no part at all in their thought process about what should and shouldn't be privileged. And if they found something that was supposed to be privileged but incriminating, or something they thought could turn into something incriminating, they absolutely would NEVER tell the investigating team who they happen to work with. Because if there's one thing the FBI and DOJ is known for in 2022, it's honesty and integrity.
I don't know how damned stupid you would have to be to believe that. I suspect most people are intelligent enough to recognize that it's laughable bullshite, but some of them are dishonest enough to never, ever admit it.
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