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Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:04 pm to Cosmo
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A nuke is just a really big bomb. Nothing more.
Not sure if serious.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:12 pm to Cosmo
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A nuke is just a really big bomb. Nothing more.
Set this to the largest bomb the USSR ever designed in the middle of New York City, Tokyo or Mexico City, estimate casualties and radiation fallout and tell me if it's just a really big bomb and nothing more.
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:18 pm to Sentrius
Yield is measured in kilo/megatons of TNT for a reason.
Its a big bomb.
Its a bomb so big that it could destroy humanity.
But at its essence it is a massive bomb. Its not some magical supernatural thing.
Its a big bomb.
Its a bomb so big that it could destroy humanity.
But at its essence it is a massive bomb. Its not some magical supernatural thing.
This post was edited on 1/8/17 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:42 pm to Sentrius
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The 100
Two things.
I watch that with my Son ... it's fantasy land.
Secondly, you must have only watched season one.
Oh, and bitches will never rule through superior strength or combat skills.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:42 pm to Cosmo
And the radiation and fallout? That's just normal stuff?
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:49 pm to KosmoCramer
I am excited about nukes ending social media.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:51 pm to Sentrius
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Set this to the largest bomb the USSR ever designed in the middle of New York City, Tokyo or Mexico City, estimate casualties and radiation fallout and tell me if it's just a really big bomb and nothing more.
The Czar bomb is not likely to detonate in New York City, be reasonable and set the bombs to HEU or Day Crockets, and the Topol if you are currently in a Russia Phobia mode.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:08 pm to Sentrius
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Do you like the fact that nuclear weapons exist?
We need them in order to shoot down rogue asteroids, comets and meteors as well as the occasional alien battle cruiser.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:20 pm to Sentrius
I meant a conventional total war.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:23 pm to scrooster
Nuke tech used for good is incredible. Nuke tech used for bad is a very terrible thing.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:58 pm to OleWar
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The Czar bomb is not likely to detonate in New York City, be reasonable and set the bombs to HEU or Day Crockets, and the Topol if you are currently in a Russia Phobia mode
The Tsar bomb was an accident. It wasn't meant to produce so much yield even though it was scaled down to 50 percent of its potential. Super impressive for something built 56 years ago. Shockwaves went around the world three times and the mushroom cloud was 40 miles high. Just think what we and the Russians have now.
Do I like the fact they exist? I'm on the fence.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 12:24 am to Sentrius
No. Nuclear weapons are as terrifying to humanity's future as they were from 1945 to 1990 IMO. The scariest part to me is that the technology to create nukes is not going to be relegated to just a handful of the most powerful state actors, but will become accessible to much smaller and less stable states and political actors. This likely increases the likelihood of nuclear weapons usage through means other than full on state to state nuclear exchange.
It's something that is typically on the backburner of people's minds regarding international relations matters but consider the possibility of nutjob groups like ISIS, who by all means will continue to exist in some form or another into perpetuity, gaining access to even one nuclear weapon. It's terrifying and there's no MAD policy that can deter that kind of attack.
I've never read anything that puts my mind at ease regarding any way to solve this problem in the future either.
Nuclear weapons may have, by our good fortunes that the numerous incidents we had in the Cold War didn't result in exchange, spared us from what otherwise would have been inevitable conventional war of a scale comparable to WWII between 1945-1990, but the future of humanity may still fall victim to them.
It's something that is typically on the backburner of people's minds regarding international relations matters but consider the possibility of nutjob groups like ISIS, who by all means will continue to exist in some form or another into perpetuity, gaining access to even one nuclear weapon. It's terrifying and there's no MAD policy that can deter that kind of attack.
I've never read anything that puts my mind at ease regarding any way to solve this problem in the future either.
Nuclear weapons may have, by our good fortunes that the numerous incidents we had in the Cold War didn't result in exchange, spared us from what otherwise would have been inevitable conventional war of a scale comparable to WWII between 1945-1990, but the future of humanity may still fall victim to them.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 1:56 am to Sentrius
Yes I do.
It makes the rest of the world stop and think, instead of reacting out of emotion.
It makes the rest of the world stop and think, instead of reacting out of emotion.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 2:06 am to Sentrius
I can't claim a position on that question because I don't know the probability of a nuclear weapon being stolen and used by a rogue actor.
As a deterrent to open warfare, nuclear weapons have at least succeeded in preventing open warfare between major world powers. While we still fought the Soviet Union in proxy wars for decades after their invention, those missions were largely isolated to third-party theaters instead of occurring on American or Russian soil, and didn't result in government seizing control of large aspects of the economy in a total war effort. These are huge benefits to having nuclear weapons. In lives and money saved, nuclear weapons have been very profitable.
But the existence of insane, apocalyptic death cults like ISIS creates in me a gut feeling that it would be a better world if nuclear weapons didn't exist. Just one such maniacal organization getting the opportunity to use those weapons would change everything. Forget the savings I mentioned before, that's all a fanciful academic musing compared to the nightmarish reality that a post-apocalyptic world would bring about.
As a deterrent to open warfare, nuclear weapons have at least succeeded in preventing open warfare between major world powers. While we still fought the Soviet Union in proxy wars for decades after their invention, those missions were largely isolated to third-party theaters instead of occurring on American or Russian soil, and didn't result in government seizing control of large aspects of the economy in a total war effort. These are huge benefits to having nuclear weapons. In lives and money saved, nuclear weapons have been very profitable.
But the existence of insane, apocalyptic death cults like ISIS creates in me a gut feeling that it would be a better world if nuclear weapons didn't exist. Just one such maniacal organization getting the opportunity to use those weapons would change everything. Forget the savings I mentioned before, that's all a fanciful academic musing compared to the nightmarish reality that a post-apocalyptic world would bring about.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 3:08 am to Sentrius
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When we invented nuclear weapons, we literally stole power that was exclusively reserved for God himself.
Yeah, that's what the caveman philosopher said about the control of fire.
As Oppenheimer said, "The atomic bomb is shite." Once opposing sides possess it, it loses its value as a weapon of war. The hope was always that it would be "big enough", that is, big enough to prevent war. It's done its job admirably WRT to the nuclear powers. So far. The danger has always been in them falling into the hands of irrational actors, those who would say things like, "Well, why can't we use nukes?"
Posted on 1/9/17 at 6:32 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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No.
Agree
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It's not even sporting when you can just push a button and destroy the world
I know you're being sarcastic but war is all about annihilating the enemy with the shortest amount of energy & in the shortest amount of time
Posted on 1/9/17 at 6:49 am to Wtodd
Yes, there will never be another world war because of them, threat of mutual destruction is the greatest gift to the 21st century, it was the only thing that kept the US and USSR from going at it, woulda made WW2 look like a skirmish
This post was edited on 1/9/17 at 7:03 am
Posted on 1/9/17 at 6:55 am to Sentrius
No. Scares the shite out of most rational people.
Mutually assured destruction is a damn powerful deterrent, though, so I'm not worried about sovereign nations utilizing them.
It's radicals like ISIS and their ilk who legitimately DGAF about their own lives or the planet who I'd worry about getting their hands on a couple. Not likely, of course, but not something you can completely rule out.
Mutually assured destruction is a damn powerful deterrent, though, so I'm not worried about sovereign nations utilizing them.
It's radicals like ISIS and their ilk who legitimately DGAF about their own lives or the planet who I'd worry about getting their hands on a couple. Not likely, of course, but not something you can completely rule out.
This post was edited on 1/9/17 at 7:00 am
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:03 am to AU66
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it was the only thing that kept the US and USSR from going at it, woulda made WW2 look like a skirmish
That wasn't the reason. The only reason we didn't go at it was bc there were enough smart guys on both sides that prevented it.
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