re: Do we have a new Joe the Plumber?

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It actually does.

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The founder of libertarianism was a no government conservative who would probably have a cutout of Trump as well. Show some deference

Hopefully never

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Libertarian means "small government Conservative".

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Oy vey. It pains me that people think they can just casually redefine Libertarianism or Conservatism, because they are too ill-informed to define them correctly. No matter what you think Conservative and Libertarian are NOT the same thing. But go ahead and knock yourself out.

And for the record, the term you are looking for to describe yourself is likely "small l libertarian". If you use the term "Conservative" you are highly unlikely to be either an Objectivist or an anarcho-capitalist for instance. WFB and Murray Rothbard are not proponents of the same philosophy, similarities withstanding.

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Anyone who welcomes government intrusion into the private lives of it's citizens... they're no conservative.

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And just so you know, Movement Conservatism champions Constitutional government. Just very limited government. A "social" Conservative is likely to have an expanded view of government and the modern-day charlatan we see today (McCain) who calls himself a Conservative is just an establishment Republican.

I will withdraw the progressive comment. Your anti-Trump bed-wetting hysterical meltdowns are so similar, I'm sure you can understand the mistake.

The Deep State is defiant. And this is just the beginning.

Look, I'm not knocking Libertarianism, but Libertarians aren't really interested in governing. They are interested in political philosophy and being the smartest guy in the room. That's the curse of Libertarianism. Governing demands pragmatism. Libertarianism views pragmatism as the great sin. And besides, 90% of the people who call themselves Libertarian are nothing of the sort. Most are just small government Conservatives who just like certain aspects of Libertarianism and don't want to be associated with the feckless and unprincipled Republicans they see on their tv every day.

I think you are misconstruing terms. Small l libertarianism typically refers to the philosophy, big L Libertarianism refers to the party

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I'm a Libertarian. You know, an actual small government Conservative? I would be opposed to anyone gunning for the media.

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WTF do libertarians care about big media?

I think you are misconstruing terms. Small l libertarianism typically refers to the philosophy, big L Libertarianism refers to the party

Nope. You are missing the point. I'm referring to what is essentially a school of Conservatism, people who identify overwhelmingly as Republicans, who call themselves "small l Libertarians". But they aren't "really" Libertarians, because Libertarianism is essentially a debating club of super-smart guys who are nowhere near the levers of governance. As talked about by WFB, Russell Kirk, Limbaugh et al. Coined thusly by Milton Friedman:

“I am a libertarian with a small 'l' and a Republican with a capital 'R'. And I am a Republican with a capital 'R' on grounds of expediency, not on principle.”

That describes most of the Conservatives on this board, no? At least how they/we would like to think of themselves.

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Yeah. He's screwed. That was my immediate reaction in the earlier thread. The Left will try to destroy him 

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Uhhh, yeah. He pretty much did that on his own when he said on live TV he had a "6ft cardboard cut out of trump " that he "salutes and prays to everyday". That's just not healthy.

We can continue to laugh at the Levinesque pseudoconservative who will claim libertarianism and advocate power for John Bolton simultaneously