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Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:53 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Why do they have to fake it? You don't have to pray to a God. There are other forms of praying.
pretty sure prayer implies an entity outside of yourself.
you would be faking it.
Some people might not have an issue with being dishonest, but I do.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:53 pm to Godfather1
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. Freedom of association, it's a very simple concept.
BUT...some people just HAVE to make their little statements, so...
it's this world of "im a victim" that has been propagated by the left/media/schools/etc
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:54 pm to Tactical1
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I am sure plenty of religious folks gamed this system by just lowering their head and doing nothing.
of course, but I would say they are POS if they do this.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:55 pm to Hawkeye95
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pretty sure prayer implies an entity outside of yourself.
Not really. It doesn't even require an entity at all.
pray verb \'pra\
: to speak to God especially in order to give thanks or to ask for something
: to hope or wish very much for something to happen
: to seriously ask (someone) to do something
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:56 pm to Fun Bunch
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The argument should be that pvt business owners should have the right to discriminate as the restaurant owner did in this instance.
Agreed
I don't know why there are all these contortions to claim it ins't discriminatory when it obviously is. The argument to make here is that it should be tolerated.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:56 pm to Fun Bunch
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What about them?
Since this policy was, supposedly, religious discrimination. Would I, as a Christian, be discriminated against if I chose to not pray before my meal?
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:57 pm to cwill
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How is that different than the theists are all being charged less than the menu price while atheists are being charged the higher menu price?
they're not being charged less or more due to their religion. the diner owners have no idea what religion anyone is.
why is this so fricking hard to understand?
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:57 pm to cwill
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re all these contortions to claim it ins't discriminatory when it obviously is
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cwill
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao:Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:58 pm to cwill
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it ins't discriminatory when it obviously is.
explain.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:58 pm to cwill
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I don't know why there are all these contortions to claim it ins't discriminatory when it obviously is.
do the diner owners know who is religious and who is not?
a simple yes or no will suffice
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:59 pm to Fun Bunch
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religion
And?
If the owner wants to give people who pray a discount then so be it. I couldn't give a shite less.
But if the owner can't give a discount to someone who prays, then he shouldn't be allowed to give a discount to police officers and firefighters. Thats discriminating against people who are not one of those two.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 4:02 pm to cwill
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How is that different than the theists are all being charged less than the menu price while atheists are being charged more? The menu price is meaningless as a basis for your ar
The menu price is absolutely germane to the argument. It is a standard set price that EVERYBODY has to pay for their meal, absent a discount. If you do something that at the owners discretion warrants a discount, then so be it. I'm fairly sure there are religious people dining in that restaurant that didn't pray, and subsequently received no discount.
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It absolutely is not like a "coupon". It is a belief you either hold or don't hold. Of course atheists could not give a shite and fake pray.
See above. One more time...A DISCOUNT IS NOT YOUR RIGHT.
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So I can give a white-discount and because I call it a discount it's not discrimination?
You as a business owner could give me a discount for wearing a red shirt if you so chose. Bottom line, as I've stated before, it's none of the adjacent tables' business WHAT you charge me for whatever reason.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 4:05 pm to Godfather1
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.A DISCOUNT IS NOT YOUR RIGHT
that's not how it fricking works
LINK
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Under federal civil rights law, companies and businesses offering services and goods to the public - such as food, lodging, gasoline and entertainment - can't discriminate against customers based upon their race, color, religion, or national origin
Posted on 8/7/14 at 4:05 pm to Gladius Veritas
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can't discriminate against customers based upon their race, color, religion, or national origin
We already know this. This isn't being violated.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 4:06 pm to Green Chili Tiger
How about this...
They aren't discriminating. They are procriminating.
It's a new word I just made up meaning they aren't punishing anybody for not doing something. They are rewarding those who are doing something.
They aren't discriminating. They are procriminating.
It's a new word I just made up meaning they aren't punishing anybody for not doing something. They are rewarding those who are doing something.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 4:06 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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pray verb \'pra\
: to speak to God especially in order to give thanks or to ask for something
: to hope or wish very much for something to happen
: to seriously ask (someone) to do something
the first definition is the one that applies in this situation.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 4:06 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
yes, it is
Posted on 8/7/14 at 4:06 pm to Hawkeye95
Oh really? I htink the second one applies.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 4:07 pm to Green Chili Tiger
atheists can be such dicks sometimes.
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