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re: Did anyone catch the Jon Stewart and Oreilly debate on white privilege?
Posted on 10/19/14 at 2:09 pm to upgrayedd
Posted on 10/19/14 at 2:09 pm to upgrayedd
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Somebody has to break the cycle and white people can't do it for them
Couldn't agree more. I'm glad I was lucky/privileged/whatever enough to not have to worry about "breaking" any cycle because I had two great parents and grew up in a stable environment. I count my blessings every day.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 2:17 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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Do you know how many people are National Merit with high test scores? That's not a ticket anywhere. Clearly the rest of your application wasnt too stellar.
So, you actually think that there has ever been a black National Merit Scholar ever rejected by an Ivy League College? Really?
Posted on 10/19/14 at 2:47 pm to Zach
Umm yea I know one. He was one of my mentees at my alma mater. Got into Yale, waitlisted at Princeton.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 2:53 pm to Zach
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So, you actually think that there has ever been a black National Merit Scholar ever rejected by an Ivy League College?
I have a Hispanic friend in med school who had a HS GPA north of 4.0 and was a NMS who was rejected by Harvard and Dartmouth, so I'm sure it has happened.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 2:58 pm to Roger Klarvin
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I have a Hispanic friend in med school who had a HS GPA north of 4.0 and was a NMS who was rejected by Harvard and Dartmouth, so I'm sure it has happened.
Impossible. According to Zach, who went to college in like the 40's, these things do not happen in 2014.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 3:00 pm to onmymedicalgrind
I thought this thread was about black people?
Posted on 10/19/14 at 4:01 pm to StrongSafety
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I read all this and all I can wonder is...do any of you actually interact with blsck people in your personal life?
Like not at work. But as a good friend or best friend? Family member?
Yes, many. The best man at my wedding was black, I was the best man at his wedding. My adopted brother is black. My former stepfather is black.
I'm blacker than you, bitch.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 4:03 pm to TrueTiger
quote:Where I. Any of my posts did I suggest you should feel guilty?
Pack your bags everybody! Bucky is taking us on a white-guilt trip.
Please don't use up all the straw.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 4:04 pm to Jcorye1
quote:Congrats.
I hate this fricking phrase. I busted my arse in life to get where I am. I paid my own way in college, failed a bit, had to pay more, and even worked multiple jobs WHILE in college. I get my degree, and I get a job with the state. Everything is going fine until my car breaks down, to which I have to work 70 hours a week between the two jobs just to pay for a used car. My story isn't some unique tale or anything like that, and I know for a fact a lot of my fellow employees did the same thing and they are black. Color doesn't define me, and I don't agree with people that let it define them. I have ended many friendships because they either don't like white people/asian people/black people.
That has nothing to do with understanding white privilege. And you don't as well.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 4:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:There is nothing in my posts from which you could lead you to know what I know.
Neither do you since it's an extremely subjective, created term for political gain
And, no, it wasn't created for political gain. And considering when the idea was first promulgated any political gain would have been justified. Unless you are against civil rights.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 4:16 pm to TrueTiger
quote:And yet the Jews dominate.
I can't discount the possibility that Western culture in general owes some of its advances in freedom and technical achievement from its wide adoption of Christianity. No way to prove or disprove but I don't believe it is mere coincidence.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 4:18 pm to BuckyBadger
Maybe you can enlighten me on the purpose of the WP exercise.
We are all told it exists and drives the seen and unseen racial atrocities of the day. Yet, when white people ask why they should feel guilty over something that they cannot control, they are told that's not the purpose of the WP awareness exercise. So what's the end game? Every time someone says they admit it exists and then asks what they have to do about it, no one really gives a definitive answer as to what the solution is. Is step one to make it an accepted premise then have some bitter, seething college professor come up with the solution that he hands to the guilty white people to spread around the liberal blogosphere?
We are all told it exists and drives the seen and unseen racial atrocities of the day. Yet, when white people ask why they should feel guilty over something that they cannot control, they are told that's not the purpose of the WP awareness exercise. So what's the end game? Every time someone says they admit it exists and then asks what they have to do about it, no one really gives a definitive answer as to what the solution is. Is step one to make it an accepted premise then have some bitter, seething college professor come up with the solution that he hands to the guilty white people to spread around the liberal blogosphere?
Posted on 10/19/14 at 4:23 pm to Zach
quote:Back when you were growing up, yes. It isn't even debatable. Along with Ivy League quotas on the number of Jews.
So, you actually think that there has ever been a black National Merit Scholar ever rejected by an Ivy League College? Really?
Just like the stats show there are likely quotas on Asians.
It is pretty obvious you know very little about Ivy League admissions and their history.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 4:23 pm to upgrayedd
White conservatives need to just realize that unless they change their language and policies toward blacks, blacks won't vote Republican. It's that simple.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 4:24 pm to BuckyBadger
All you've done is this thread is tell people they're wrong. Why don't you explain what WP really is?
Posted on 10/19/14 at 4:24 pm to BuckyBadger
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That has nothing to do with understanding white privilege.
well "white privilege" is an amorphous concept that is changed in shape/form to fit arguments...so that's not shocking
Posted on 10/19/14 at 4:25 pm to BuckyBadger
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And, no, it wasn't created for political gain.
now that is an intellectually dishonest statement
Posted on 10/19/14 at 4:25 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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White conservatives need to just realize that unless they change their language and policies toward blacks, blacks won't vote Republican. It's that simple.
frick the Republican party
i want them to vote libertarian
Posted on 10/19/14 at 4:26 pm to genro
quote:That is categorically false.
All you've done is this thread is tell people they're wrong. Why don't you explain what WP really is?
Why? Because it is futile. Have you read the posts in this board? Zach just stated blacks have a lower iq.
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