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DeVos foes now claiming her policies could 'kill children,' ruin public schools

Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:53 pm
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:53 pm
Good Lord, these people are nuts.

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DeVos foes now claiming her policies could 'kill children,' ruin public schools

?If her critics are to be believed, Education Secretary nominee Betsy DeVos is a danger to special education, could end public schooling and has plans that “will kill children.”

Think that’s hyperbole?

“That is not an exaggeration in any sense,” tweeted Vanity Fair film critic Richard Lawson, who fired off a series of tweets early Tuesday arguing that DeVos’ confirmation would be deadly for “queer and other at-risk kids” – because of DeVos’ support for voucher programs.

Meaning voucher programs will lead to more suicides. Betsy DeVos's policies will kill children. That is not an exaggeration in any sense.
— Richard Lawson (@rilaws) February 7, 2017

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Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111546 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:56 pm to
One of the reasons I was ok with her being approved. The meltdown is awesome.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:57 pm to
Well I've been critical of her nomination, but this is just ridiculous.

These people drown out legitimate criticisms.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61309 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:58 pm to
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Well I've been critical of her nomination, but this is just ridiculous.
Same here. I thought she was a poor choice, but kill children? They've gone off the deep end.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72129 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:59 pm to
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Well I've been critical of her nomination, but this is just ridiculous.

These people drown out legitimate criticisms.
It is the "literally Hitler fallacy".

Over the years, they have been overplaying their hands with extreme outcomes and no one is buying it anymore.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40892 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 12:03 am to
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DeVos foes now claiming her policies could...ruin public schools


They're not ruined already?
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61309 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 12:05 am to
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They're not ruined already?
Good point.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
19033 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 12:06 am to
They have bitched for years about the government mandated curriculum and NCLB and now they get a chance at a fresh start without the Feds in their business and they all fall apart.

I can't wait till good teachers find out they are in high demand at charter schools and see their salaries increase while the less than stellar ones are at the public school living off the minimum.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 12:07 am
Posted by John Keating
College Green, Ireland
Member since Jan 2015
2593 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 12:09 am to
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Vanity Fair film critic Richard Lawson
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:03 am to
My 17 year old daughter told me yesterday that one of her teachers told her class that Devos is a bad choice because she is advocating "ending" public schools. She was echoing his argument. I took it as a teaching moment and asked what she knew about Devos. She knew nothing. I then spent about an hour with her researching her ideas and positions. She realized that her teacher was full of shite and I asked her what she thought would motivate her teacher to embellish the facts. She then learned about teachers unions and the fear they have of school choice.

It was really a good exercise for her to learn not to simply echo things she hears without doing some research on the facts.
Posted by mulletproof
Shambala
Member since Apr 2013
4672 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:09 am to
Awesome parenting. Have a large upvote sir.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50166 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:10 am to
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My 17 year old daughter told me yesterday that one of her teachers told her class that Devos is a bad choice because she is advocating "ending" public schools.


Weird. What state do you live in? The teachers I know are opposed to DeVos because she basically bought her position and paid for all her confirmation votes.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:14 am to
Why would you say something so stupid? The woman doesn't need a job.

I am thankful we have somebody concerned about real, positive changes in education instead of union dues collections.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50166 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:17 am to
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Why would you say something so stupid?


What is stupid? That she bought her confirmation votes? :lol :

Ok. You really need to learn how to articulate your points without insults. If you don't think that donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to the people responsible for approving her appointment qualifies as "buying confirmation votes," that's your prerogative. To call drawing that conclusion "stupid," is stupid.

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I am thankful we have somebody concerned about real, positive changes in education instead of union dues collections.



Not sure why you keep bringing up Unions. We seem to be having 2 different conversations.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:18 am to
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ruin public schools


Too late
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48401 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:23 am to
did she write each senator a check? Or just put cash in an envelope?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:33 am to
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What is stupid?


This:

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That she bought her confirmation votes?


So what happened to the two lady Reps who voted against her? Was Devos' check not as big as the check those two got from the teacher's unions?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59673 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:33 am to
Why should I give a shite what this guy thinks?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:34 am to
It unbelievable the crap he post. Teacher unions spent over $50 million lobbying and he thinks DeVos paid Senators to get her job!!
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:36 am to
The Department of Education was created by Jimmy Carter in 1979 as a payback to the teachers unions.

Our education standards and results have went down ever since.

Why do we need the DoE?
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