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Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:42 pm to TigerDoc
But the Feds have his taxes, correct...
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:44 pm to Errerrerrwere
To err is human err. ;-)
In the modern era since releasing taxes has been a norm, can you name another nominee not to do it?
In the modern era since releasing taxes has been a norm, can you name another nominee not to do it?
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:46 pm to wickowick
Yes. The IRS has his taxes. FBI/SC can't get them without him voluntarily releasing them or a subpoena, I believe.
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:49 pm to TigerDoc
Modern era started when? What years did those presidents release? Let's start with Clinton. What years did he release? When did he release them?
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:50 pm to TigerDoc
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To err is human err. ;-)
In the modern era since releasing taxes has been a norm, can you name another nominee not to do it?
But that's not what you said!
You clearly left out on the last 50 years for a reason didn't you?
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:56 pm to BBONDS25
The modern era goes back to FECA (passed in 1974), since which time the norm has been for nominees and definitely all Presidents to release tax returns.
Don't know when Clinton released his. Do you?
Presidential tax returns
Don't know when Clinton released his. Do you?
Presidential tax returns
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:57 pm to TigerDoc
So this means mueller can investigate comet lying about the emails on the Clinton lynch meeting?
I mean he can go in any direction
I mean he can go in any direction
Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:01 pm to gthog61
If he finds it pertinent to the Russian attack on the American election, sure.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:26 pm to Errerrerrwere
This has been the objective all along.....this investigation is basically the criminalization of privacy as it pertain s to Presidential candidates.
The press and Democrats are running roughshod over Trump's rights as a private citizen in order to settle a political score.
It's a bout Russian "collusion" and interference as it applies to the 2016 campaign....no wait, it's about obstruction of justice as it applies to Flynn and honorarium from the Russian government.....wait, it's about Trump obstructing justice by giving candied arse Comey the boot because Comey would not comply with a legitimate lawful request pertaining to Trump's status in the said investigation....oh wait, we may have to go back 15-20 years to connect the dots together and look at all of Trump's financial transactions in the course of his business dealings because he sold things to rich Russian oligarchs.... next thing it will be that he had improper financial dealings with Grimace from McDonald's regarding the sale of chocolate shakes 10 years ago and that the purple blob known as Grimace was actually a Russian plant with the Hamburglar as his control officer.....quick call Mayor McCheese!!!!!!!
The press and Democrats are running roughshod over Trump's rights as a private citizen in order to settle a political score.
It's a bout Russian "collusion" and interference as it applies to the 2016 campaign....no wait, it's about obstruction of justice as it applies to Flynn and honorarium from the Russian government.....wait, it's about Trump obstructing justice by giving candied arse Comey the boot because Comey would not comply with a legitimate lawful request pertaining to Trump's status in the said investigation....oh wait, we may have to go back 15-20 years to connect the dots together and look at all of Trump's financial transactions in the course of his business dealings because he sold things to rich Russian oligarchs.... next thing it will be that he had improper financial dealings with Grimace from McDonald's regarding the sale of chocolate shakes 10 years ago and that the purple blob known as Grimace was actually a Russian plant with the Hamburglar as his control officer.....quick call Mayor McCheese!!!!!!!
Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:27 pm to Janky
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I am going to laugh my arse of when the only people charged are the Clintons.
i could care less if the clintons end up in jail
Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:32 pm to TigerDoc
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If he finds it pertinent to the Russian attack on the American election, sure.
So it is OK for Mueller to give Trump and his family an endless rectal exam until he can find a way that conceivably connects the dots. Given that way of looking at it, I may be complicit in helping to further a Russian/Israeli crime syndicate by my spending a bit too much money last weekend at a bar in Orange Beach in which the owner is purported to be a mobster....and a very nice guy as well and he could have helped deliver Alabama for Trump.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:34 pm to KiwiHead
He's still subject to firing by Rosenstein with cause. Prosecutorial misconduct would obviously quality.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:37 pm to Hawkeye95
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i could care less if the clintons end up in jail
So you do care if they go to jail?
*could not care less
Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:40 pm to KiwiHead
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So it is OK for Mueller to give Trump and his family an endless rectal exam until he can find a way that conceivably connects the dots. Given that way of looking at it, I may be complicit in helping to further a Russian/Israeli crime syndicate by my spending a bit too much money last weekend at a bar in Orange Beach in which the owner is purported to be a mobster....and a very nice guy as well and he could have helped deliver Alabama for Trump.
No, RR was clear, he can't go anywhere in this. Read his quote.
But he can look into trump russia ties.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:41 pm to TigerDoc
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He's still subject to firing by Rosenstein with cause. Prosecutorial misconduct would obviously quality.
I like how you say that, like it's all very much under control and Rosenstein will keep a strong thumb on Mueller. If you are looking at his juridiction, NOTHING is off limits. The only way Mueller could get in trouble is if he were caught red handed paying off a witness....beyond that, he can twist anything right now into furthering the investigation.....hell, he could dig up Merv Griffin to talk about the beef's he had with Trump over the whole Resorts International thing and Merv's been dead 10 years and all he would have to say is that Merv died under Mysterious circumstances...he had a long running feud with Trump and we think his death is somehow linked. Rosenstein would have to acquiesce because of the wide latitude he gave Mueller in the beginning.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:42 pm to Errerrerrwere
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So you do care if they go to jail?
nope.
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*could not care less
actually, they mean the same thing. English idioms are unusual.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:47 pm to KiwiHead
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If you are looking at his juridiction, NOTHING is off limits.
that is not RR's opinion, did you read OP?
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The only way Mueller could get in trouble is if he were caught red handed paying off a witness....beyond that, he can twist anything right now into furthering the investigation.....hell, he could dig up Merv Griffin to talk about the beef's he had with Trump over the whole Resorts International thing and Merv's been dead 10 years and all he would have to say is that Merv died under Mysterious circumstances...he had a long running feud with Trump and we think his death is somehow linked. Rosenstein would have to acquiesce because of the wide latitude he gave Mueller in the beginning.
maybe trump shouldn't have fired comey, lied about it, and then said he fired him due to russian investigation.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:56 pm to Hawkeye95
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No, RR was clear, he can't go anywhere in this. Read his quote.
Oh, I read his quote. I know what it means, I also know that Ken Starr had the same parameters set for him and then he went off on a tangent and got all involved in a civil matter that wasted a lot of time.
I have dealt with enough USA's over the years and have seen them go on fishing expeditions just to make a target's life miserable....Mueller has virtually no leash on him....believe me on this. He can sell to a judge/ DAG if he wanted to, that whatever he wants could be pertinent in terms of establishing a pattern.
If I were Trump and his attorneys, all cooperation with Mueller would stop. He asks me my name, I'd tell him to talk to my lawyer.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 2:09 pm to Hawkeye95
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that is not RR's opinion, did you read OP?
I read the OP, Rosenstein said Mueller was free to probe into any crimes he thinks may be linked to this Russia thing....then he says we at the DOJ do not engage in fishing expeditions.
They do engage in fishing expeditions....I've seen it, been involved with one.
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maybe trump shouldn't have fired comey, lied about it, and then said he fired him due to russian investigation.
Trump did not need to say a damned thing about why he fired Comey. He does not need a cause to fire him. He could have said he can't stand having guys in the upper reaches of government that are taller than 6'5" and guess what, he could get away with it legally.
I'd have fired his arse as werll due to the Russia investigation, The President actually made a lawful request to Comey to say publically that the President was not under investigation,. Comey had told Congress that the President was not under investigation...Comey had purportedly told Trump 3X that he was not under investigation and yet Comey refused.....If it were me,and I was face to face with Comey, I can assure you Comey would not have walked out of the White House without making a commitment to me and key members of my staff...orhe would have been out there and then.
The request on Flynn is a big nothing....there was no further pressuring by Trump to Comey on Flynn's behalf....Oh , Lordy!!!!
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