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re: DEA raids home gardener after buying 16 oz of fertilizer at garden store
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:30 pm to theenemy
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:30 pm to theenemy
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I dunno but I kinda agree that we should oppose cocaine, methamphetamine, and heroin distribution.
Then maybe they shouldn't be wasting time surveilling gardening stores, and going through the customers trash.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 7:34 pm
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:38 pm to Breesus
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Slavery and rape were both legal at one point in America.
Did you really just compare slavery and rape to getting search warrant based on a trash pull?
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It is more important to try and rehabilitate drug addicts
Ok thats fine...then change the laws. The police are just enforcing the law on the books. That is their job.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:44 pm to theenemy
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getting search warrant based on a trash pull?
Are you a cop?
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:45 pm to northshorebamaman
yes
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:48 pm to theenemy
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Did you really just compare slavery and rape to getting search warrant based on a trash pull?
I compared the systematic gross violation of the rights of citizens guaranteed in the constitution to another period in history where there were also gross violations. There is an overall bigger picture here. And no, i do not think the war on drugs was the same as slavery, however a bunch of addicts in prison are getting raped, so there is that.
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he police are just enforcing the law on the books. That is their job.
It is not the DEAs job to SWAT mob a private citizen for 9 grams of pot. They should be going after major violations of federal government law like multimillion dollar meth labs and drug imports. Small violations of state criminal laws relating to the most harmless drug ever are a pretty big stretch of DEA enforcement power and one which is a battle in the courts and in the legislature today.
Further, the DEA has the right and the ability to choose who to pursue and who to investigate so it is completely and totally under their control to not partake in actions such as this.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:48 pm to theenemy
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yes
local, state, or federal?
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:50 pm to theenemy
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DEA conducts surveillance on a store that is known to sell equipment used in indoor marijuana grow houses.
They observe woman shopping at said store.
lol, and in perfectly legal gardens....
unless you think anyone buying cold medicine deserves to be swat raided, or everyone buying everyone buying acetone.
maybe everyone buying rubber tubing.
Good god what a pathetic argument.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:51 pm to theenemy
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yes
Thought so, your user name makes sense.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:52 pm to Breesus
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Further, the DEA has the right and the ability to choose who to pursue and who to investigate so it is completely and totally under their control to not partake in actions such as this.
It's an easy way to pad their stats to get a boost in funding.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:53 pm to Breesus
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And no, i do not think the war on drugs was the same as slavery, however a bunch of addicts in prison are getting raped, so there is that.
Nice job.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:59 pm to Breesus
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Small violations of state criminal laws relating to the most harmless drug ever are a pretty big stretch of DEA enforcement power
Ok, but a large portion of the DEA consists of local and state officers that work within the DEA.
I would be willing to bet this was a local or state investigation conducted from the DEA office.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:01 pm to theenemy
You really don't see the problem with surveillance on a garden store? Do we really want resources waisted on such endeavors? The whole idea of such crap is mind boggling..
Now, one could say... Well they specialize in hydro techniques .. Sounds reasonable until one realizes this is fricking Illinois were talking about
Now, one could say... Well they specialize in hydro techniques .. Sounds reasonable until one realizes this is fricking Illinois were talking about
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:02 pm to theenemy
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Wait? DEA conducts surveillance on a store that is known to sell equipment used in indoor marijuana grow houses. They observe woman shopping at said store. They do a legal trash pull finding marijuana stems and gleanings in trash can Execute a search warrant and find marijuana. Which is illegal. Where did they screw up?
Typical cop, when all else fails pull some ridiculous shite out of your arse, to either justify your pathetic and disgusting behavior or to obtain a search warrant under false pretenses. Its not just cops, judges are only too happy to go along and sign warrants for any hare-brained shite the cops can come up with. I have seen a cop and DA straight lie and get a warrant for a B-class misdemeanor in Tx. exaggerated to the point where the judge handed down a 54,000 dollar bond.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:03 pm to TROLA
You know what?
people get money from banks....
and money is used to buy drugs.....
using cop logic, we should swat raid anyone who uses a bank!
people get money from banks....
and money is used to buy drugs.....
using cop logic, we should swat raid anyone who uses a bank!
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:09 pm to TROLA
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You really don't see the problem with surveillance on a garden store?
Eleven indoor grows were using this store all from one county including this one:
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The largest of these in Will County, he said, yielded 120 marijuana plants, 290,510 grams of cannabis and 178 Ecstasy pills.
You think that maybe, just maybe the local police got info that this garden store was specializing in indoor marijuana cultivation? just saying
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:12 pm to theenemy
Pigs will always defend other pigs.
Police systematically and routinely violate the rights of 9 out of 10 people and justify it because 1 out of those 10 people are actually criminals who no one really cares about.
frick that. The rights of the people should be protected. You do not get to justify your bullshite actions because you eventually caught a criminal.
EVERYONE in this country has the same rights and should be protected the same regardless of the ends of those violations.
Police systematically and routinely violate the rights of 9 out of 10 people and justify it because 1 out of those 10 people are actually criminals who no one really cares about.
frick that. The rights of the people should be protected. You do not get to justify your bullshite actions because you eventually caught a criminal.
EVERYONE in this country has the same rights and should be protected the same regardless of the ends of those violations.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:12 pm to theenemy
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Eleven indoor grows were using this store
and BoA was dealing in cartel money....is everyone who banks with them now need to be SWAT raided?
these arguments are absurd btw, this cop logic is absurd.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:16 pm to Breesus
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Pigs will always defend other pigs.
Why do you feel you need to be rude?
I thought we were having a civil discussion.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:17 pm to theenemy
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You think that maybe, just maybe the local police got info that this garden store was specializing in indoor marijuana cultivation?
By "specializing in indoor marijuana cultivation", do you mean they sold common gardening equipment? Does Walgreen's 'specialize' in selling ingredients to produce meth? You think it's ok to surveil any place of business that sells something, that could be used to commit a crime? Would you support staking out a gun shop, following customers home, and rifling through their trash?
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:17 pm to theenemy
Why the focus on pot raids? Why not go after the harmful stuff like crack and meth? I think it's because pot raids are a lot easier and safer.
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