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re: Dash cam video of Philando Castile killing

Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:27 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110778 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:27 am to
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Never had a cop tell me not to reach for something. And i've reached for all kinds of shite to give him

Ever been stopped because you matched the description of a robbery and reached for all kinds of shite to give the cop?
Posted by graves1
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Mar 2011
2149 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:27 am to
The person I was responding to was stating as fact that he said that. Trying to change the story to fit his opinion.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30867 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:29 am to
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It's ingrained in their culture. This won't change until their culture changes. Where Gang banging is condoned.


This man was a model citizen. Your statement is pathetically naive.
Posted by AjaxFury
In & out of The Matrix
Member since Sep 2014
9928 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:31 am to
If I were him, while I'm being pulled over would have told my girl to take the papers out of the glovebox & put the gun there (more inaccessible place)

That way when LEO approaches, he doesnt have to reach for anything. If decided to disclose he has a weapon, could have reassured the officer it's in the glovebox out of his reach.

It's hard to teach common sense. You have to know the climate LEO's & citizens are living in. It's a sad situation all around
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:40 am to
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does it make sense that a city like Baltimore with a black mayor, black police chief, and a good amount of black officers would be ok with a policy to target poor black communities?


You're making it too much about race. Do the police chiefs know that they have to hit certain numbers in revenue? Absolutely. Do they know where to get it? Absolutely.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:43 am to
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You have to know the false perception LEO's & citizens are living in.

Fify

How is that different than the false perceptions many black people are under with regards to cops?
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:43 am to
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You also see the officer repeatedly tell him not to reach for the gun, but he does so anyway.



How do you know this?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:47 am to
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Have you ever continued to do something when the cop told you 2-3 times to stop doing it, and your experiences were still pleasant?


This is the idiocy level of our society. Thanks for checking in again.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110778 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:50 am to
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This is the idiocy level of our society. Thanks for checking in again.
Yea, but you're arguing that every situation is exactly the same totally makes sense.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:55 am to
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He stopped Castile because there was a robbery of a convenience store about 2 miles away. That would explain the officers jumpiness.


The robbery was four days prior. And Yanez didn't believe that they matched the description. He was covering his arse for a traffic stop. There was no woman involved in the robbery and Yanez said both occupants of the car matched the description.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:56 am to
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Yea, but you're arguing that every situation is exactly the same totally makes sense.


You're way out of your depth.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:58 am to
Some are reporting he never even had a CV permit. I haven't confirmed that though
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110778 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:59 am to
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You're way out of your depth.
Says the guy who doesn't even know the conversation he's responding to.

You either think every stop is exactly the same and think I'm an idiot to disagree. Or you agree that every situation is different but called me an idiot for trying to get the guy to realize that every stop is different. You pick which one, good luck with that.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110778 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:00 am to
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And Yanez didn't believe that they matched the description.
Message Board 101 on how to pretend you're never wrong. If something doesn't jive with your preconceived notion, just call it a lie...then tell others they're way out of their depth. The irony is rich with this one.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:02 am to
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You're making it too much about race. Do the police chiefs know that they have to hit certain numbers in revenue? Absolutely. Do they know where to get it? Absolutely.


Exactly

So you are implying that in cities like Baltimore with black mayors and black police chiefs...

They know they have certain quotas and they are ok with hitting them by over policing poor blacks. This is what you are saying. Do you find that somewhat implausible? Especially since these same mayors and police chiefs speak out against racism
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 11:04 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:03 am to
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Message Board 101 on how to pretend you're never wrong. If something doesn't jive with your preconceived notion, just call it a lie.


Did Yanez say both occupants of the car matched the description of the robbery suspects?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:05 am to
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They know they have certain quotas and they are ok with hitting them by over policing poor blacks. This is what you are saying. Do you find that somewhat implausible? Especially since these same mayors and police chiefs speak out against racism


Why is that implausible to you? Civic leaders talking about racism are pandering for votes. Why are you fighting this extremely obvious point?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110778 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:07 am to
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Did Yanez say both occupants of the car matched the description of the robbery suspects?

Did he need both to match or just one of them to match to make the stop?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:11 am to
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Did he need both to match or just one of them to match to make the stop?


He only needed one. So why did he lie?
Posted by graves1
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Mar 2011
2149 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:19 am to
Cop was making a legal stop for brake lights out. Cop told driver to not reach several times. Cop shot driver. That is the story.
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