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re: Dash cam video of Philando Castile killing
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:05 am to olddawg26
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:05 am to olddawg26
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I've told numerous cops i have a gun in the car when they approach my window. They only say "okay thank you"
Theres something different about the way he handled this, its not really up for debate I guess
He stopped Castile because there was a robbery of a convenience store about 2 miles away. That would explain the officers jumpiness.
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:07 am to olddawg26
quote:Have you ever seen a video of a very similar situation?
Theres something different about the way he handled this
I haven't.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:10 am to DawgsLife
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He stopped Castile because there was a robbery of a convenience store about 2 miles away. That would explain the officers jumpiness.
I didn't know that. Did he say thats why he was so quick to draw?
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:12 am to FooManChoo
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When an officer is dealing with someone with a gun, yes. Police officers want to live, too, and they can't take chances with people who have firearms and are not complying with orders.
How often does someone shoot a cop after saying I'm legally carrying and have a CC permit?
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:13 am to upgrayedd
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Well, when the cops tell you to stop going for a gun, you don't leave them much choice.
Didn't they say he was going for his wallet which had his CC permit....
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:13 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:And the officer continually tells him to not reach for said gun?
How often does someone shoot a cop after saying I'm legally carrying and have a CC permit?
Good question...
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:17 am to shel311
I dunno about this one. He probably did not "break" the law. But, he damn sure doesn't need to be a police officer.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:18 am to olddawg26
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I didn't know that. Did he say thats why he was so quick to draw?
From the article I read, he stopped because there was a robbery 2 miles away, but told Castile it was because his tail lights were out. It didn't really say that was why he was quick to draw, or anything, but I can't imagine why else he was so jumpy. Just bad news all the way around. Everybody loses in this situation...some more than others.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:18 am to StraightCashHomey21
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I'm legally carrying and have a CC permit?
He does not say "I'm legally carrying". Nor does he say he has a CC permit.
The video is in the thread.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:18 am to shel311
I mean jimbo and ned kept saying 'its coming right for us' to justify something too. I'm just saying ive reached for my license plenty of times and the cop didnt gaf. I dont really care how many times the cop says what, my personal experience with police has been much more pleasant and way different right off the bat.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:20 am to ljhog
Um... this is a question for anyone still arguing this was a bad decision by the officer.
Do you know the correct gun handling procedures as a citizen if you are in a traffic stop?
I really hope WeakSafety can answer this
Do you know the correct gun handling procedures as a citizen if you are in a traffic stop?
I really hope WeakSafety can answer this
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 10:31 am
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:20 am to StraightCashHomey21
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How often does someone shoot a cop after saying I'm legally carrying and have a CC permit?
My feelings exactly. You odn't announce then pull a weapon, typically.
However, he actually was not carrying legally. he got his carry permit based on a lie, and he had been smoking marijuana moments before the stop, which, apparently, makes him carrying illegal.
The cop clearly told him not to reach several times and he did anyway. I wonder if Castile was not understanding everything clearly because he was high?
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:20 am to olddawg26
quote:Have you ever continued to do something when the cop told you 2-3 times to stop doing it, and your experiences were still pleasant?
my personal experience with police has been much more pleasant and way different right off the bat.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:22 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Didn't they say he was going for his wallet which had his CC permit....
The girlfriend said that was what he was doing. I didn't hear it on the dashcam footage, or don't remember hearing it. However, the officer did say 2-3 times fro him not to reach, and he did anyway.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:23 am to Lsuchs
quote:
-Officer had no intention of harming Castille.
-Castille had no intention of harming officer.
Castille mentions he has a firearm while casually reaching for something, likely ID.
Officer: "don't pull it out then"
Castille: "I'm reaching for... "
Officer: "don't pull it out"
Castille: "I'm, I'm not"
Shots fired
So it seems IMO: Castille was still reaching for something, trying to communicate [stuttered] it wasn't the firearm he had just mentioned, to a panicked officer.
Very unfortunate, but in that situation you put your hands up and let the officer retrieve the firearm. Such a little thing that Castille didn't even really think about but it was all the officer could think about in that moment
He did not need to die and it's terrible he did, but officers need to maintain the ability to defend themselves. There was no way to know in that split moment exactly what he was reaching for. Sucks all around
How can any reasonably minded person disagree with any of this? While tragic, this is exactly what happened.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:24 am to graves1
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He does not say "I'm legally carrying"
lol what kind of person says this? Do bad guys say "im carrying illegally?" What are minnesotas gun laws for handguns in cars?
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Nor does he say he has a CC permit.
Nor does he have to
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:26 am to shel311
Never had a cop tell me not to reach for something. And i've reached for all kinds of shite to give him
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:27 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Didn't they say he was going for his wallet which had his CC permit....
No, but he does say "I have a firearm on me..."
I did not hear him say anything about a permit, but they were talking over each other, so it is possible he did.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:27 am to olddawg26
He was just pointing out that PC did not say what the poster stated that he said. He was exaggerating the point for some reason.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:27 am to olddawg26
None of this matters. Once he told the officer he was in possession of a firearm, he should place the hands on the steering wheel at 10 and 2 and await instruction from the officer, until the firearm was cleared and the officer felt comfortable to proceed. If he really had a CC permit, his dumbass had been taught that.
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