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re: Dash cam video of Philando Castile killing
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:13 pm to shel311
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:13 pm to shel311
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"The driver looks more like one of our suspects, just 'cause of the wide-set nose."
Here is my problem with Yanez saying that. I knew there was something that bothered me besides the obvious racial overtones....in the description given the police, there was nothing in it about the suspects having a wide set nose.
Hey...I am neither trying to exonerate nor convict Yanez...just trying to keep the narrative honest.
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:14 pm to the808bass
quote:I said Yanez did say something about the occupants matched the description, but then he clarified to say the male matched the description, at that point not saying anything about the female.
So he did say both fit the description when they clearly did not. Just like I said.
That is literally what happened, which part of my quote was dishonest?
Yours way more dishonest because you left out the 2nd part, likely intentionally. I gave the entire quote from Yanez, nothing dishonest.
Take the L.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:14 pm to DawgsLife
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I think the truth lies somewhere in between the "Cops are fascists and had no reason to shoot anybody for any reason!" and "Cops are always good and do the right thing for the right reason." groups.
I agree. If someone says, "I see how someone could be troubled by this police shooting but it's difficult for me to say that this policeman should be in jail," I'm fine with that.
It's the "frick that a-hole, Castile" and "the cop didn't do anything wrong at all" responses that seem stupid to me.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:15 pm to ShortyRob
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the entire proceeding was televised.
If this one had been, you would be on point.
I remember it being on TV...was the whole thing televised? I didn't remember that...but I am an old man and can't remember stuff anyway!
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:17 pm to shel311
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but then he clarified to say the male matched the description
He didn't clarify. Perhaps you don't know what that word means. He gave additional information. He said both occupants fit the description and never said "nevermind that, just the one does." You're trying to charitably read his statement that way. But it's not there.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:17 pm to the808bass
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I agree. If someone says, "I see how someone could be troubled by this police shooting but it's difficult for me to say that this policeman should be in jail," I'm fine with that.
This is where I fit. Although had he been convicted, it would be hard for me to argue against that, too. I do tend to see a cops side most of the time, because I understand how I would be feeling if I were in their situation with my life on the line. These are situations that we will never truly know what was going through anybody's thoughts, or what they were meaning to do.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:20 pm to the808bass
quote:So THAT was dishonest, but you completely leaving out the additional information was not dishonest?
He didn't clarify. Perhaps you don't know what that word means. He gave additional information
Making up your mind, then fitting the facts around your already made up narrative is not a good look, fwiw. This proves that is exactly what you're doing.
You intentionally left out information that you knew didn't totally go along with the point you were making. I gave all of the information, you called me dishonest for doing so.
quote:Even if true( don't think it is) at least I'm giving the full quote and not intentionally leaving pieces out because I want my version to be true so I pick and choose what to add or leave out. I'm putting it all out there, you can't honestly say you're doing the same.
You're trying to charitably read his statement that way
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:21 pm to DawgsLife
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I remember it being on TV...was the whole thing televised? I didn't remember that...but I am an old man and can't remember stuff anyway
Every minute of it
A public train wreck
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:21 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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I think it is >90% an issue with crime in these communities and <5% an issue with intentional over policing for monetary gain. But I'm just spit balling.
I think your percentages are way off. At best it's 66% and 33%. In some towns around me, it's 75%/25% the other way.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:22 pm to ShortyRob
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Every minute of it
I didn't remember that. Man. I'm surprised somebody hasn't put it out as a DVD set!
quote:
A public train wreck
The DA messed that one up.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:25 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Generally speaking if you're going to ambush someone it's not going to be with your kid in the car after informing the officer you have a concealed weapon. Just saying...
This ^^
Would it have been out of line for the officer to ask Castille to put his hands on the steering wheel and slowly exit the car once he knew that he had a firearm? Then he could have removed the gun and proceeded with the traffic stop. In reality, only the officer and Castille know if he was going for a gun. It's sad for everyone
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:25 pm to AjaxFury
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If I were him, while I'm being pulled over would have told my girl to take the papers out of the glovebox & put the gun there (more inaccessible place)
If the cop approaching sees the passenger reaching for something, and if they are already in this mindset, you're not helping the situation.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:22 pm to the808bass
quote:
I think your percentages are way off. At best it's 66% and 33%. In some towns around me, it's 75%/25% the other way.
So let's say hypothetically in a city like baltimore what is it?
I say 90% crime 5% intentional over policing
If you say it is the other way around then how do you explain black police chiefs targeting their own people? It doesn't make sense
Posted on 6/21/17 at 3:12 pm to WaWaWeeWa
People are primarily about self-preservation.
Family and tribes come second at best.
Family and tribes come second at best.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 4:52 pm to Breesus
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If you're carrying a firearm you should understand the added responsibility you have when interacting with police.
You can be non-compliant and absolutely be peaceful and/or non-violent simultaneously.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 5:03 pm to TaderSalad
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ETA: But no one will see it this way because marching orders insist that there is an epidemic of white-asian murderous police officers
There isn't an epidemic of white-asian police officers running around murdering people. There is, however, an epidemic where police officers of all races are shite at their jobs and are nearly immune to the law. Based on the officers statements.. no reasonable human being can deny that he took this mans life unnecessarily and because of his own weak temperament. Cops also a liar too. Judge denied the jurors the ability to watch the interview with Yanez.. refused their request for transcripts.. etc.
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Jurors had sent Ramsey County District Judge William H. Leary III a note about 9:10 a.m. Tuesday asking for transcripts of the BCA interview and dashcam video from Yanez's squad showing the shooting. They also asked to re-watch the squad video and a Facebook Live video of the aftermath broadcast by Castile's girlfriend, Diamond Reynolds.
Jurors reconvened in the courtroom and re-watched both videos. But using wide discretion provided under Minnesota Rules of Criminal Procedure and case law, Leary denied them access to the transcripts without stating his reasons.
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 6/21/17 at 5:08 pm to skrayper
The dash cam vid looks more damn good than the Facebook vid
Posted on 6/21/17 at 5:10 pm to Webster23
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Would it have been out of line for the officer to ask Castille to put his hands on the steering wheel and slowly exit the car once he knew that he had a firearm?
The link to the video is on page 1. You need to watch it. Castile told the officer he had a weapon and things went real fast after that. As soon as Castile told him that the officer said, "Ok, don't reach for it, then." and Castile, either not understanding, or thinkign he was not reaching for it, continued to move his hand where the officer could not see what he was reaching for. The officer assumed he was reaching for the gun and said at least 2 more times, "Don't reach for it! Don't reach for it!" and then shot him 6 or 7 times.
It happened very, very quickly.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 5:11 pm to skrayper
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If the cop approaching sees the passenger reaching for something, and if they are already in this mindset, you're not helping the situation.
I agree. You don't want to do a whole lot of moving around in the car when being stopped.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 5:14 pm to bmy
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Judge denied the jurors the ability to watch the interview with Yanez.. refused their request for transcripts.. etc.
In fairness, they probably saw all of that in the trial, but for whatever reason the judge would not allow them to see it again. I have no idea why he would deny this, but sometimes they just don't want them to see some things outside the context of the courtroom.
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