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Dam Jeff sessions loves him some civil asset seizures
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:10 am
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:10 am
So lawyers when does the Supreme Court frick this horrible policy. Clarence Thomas is ready to kick some arse 
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 8:11 am
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Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:11 am to jb4
It's actually a great policy to remove the offenders income stream. Sessions is 100% right on this.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:17 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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It's actually a great policy to remove the offenders income stream. Sessions is 100% right on this.
What is a great idea in premise ends up being terrible when actually practiced.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:17 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
I don't have a problem post conviction but not on suspicion of wrong doing, that is a joke
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:19 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:21 am to TiketheMiger
quote:exactly.
What is a great idea in premise ends up being terrible when actually practiced.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:22 am to jb4
Not surprised Sessions supports this.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:24 am to jb4
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I don't have a problem post conviction but not on suspicion of wrong doing, that is a joke
This. One of the reasons it is used before a conviction is so that funds can be seized and not used to hire defense counsel. With the feds record on getting pleas and convictions I do not see this as a necessity. Even if then, the state should make sure they have a solid case.
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 8:35 am
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:34 am to jb4
Cause Jefferson Beauregard Sessions thinks that if black people have cash, it must be subject the seizure.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:36 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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actually a great policy to remove the offenders income stream. Sessions is 100% right on this.
No he is not.
It is theft and encourages very bad police actions.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:37 am to jb4
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I don't have a problem post conviction but not on suspicion of wrong doing, that is a joke
This.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:43 am to jb4
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I don't have a problem post conviction but not on suspicion of wrong doing, that is a joke
I mostly agree with this,except,maybe certain assets could be frozen,until after trial?
I know after a couple of my escapades,after I was found not guilty,my firearms were returned to me.
They both still have red "EVIDENCE" tape on them.
It looks pretty cool.
I got some downvotes, But.. Seems to me,that they are "evidence" that our court system can still work.
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 9:52 am
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:46 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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It's actually a great policy to remove the offenders income stream. Sessions is 100% right on this.
Post conviction, yes.
All the Rs are supporting this now.
Just wait until another Obama is in office and decides to use this law against his political enemies similar to the way the IRS was used. You won't like it then.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:52 am to jb4
I feel like it's okay, but in most cases where this is brought up, the assets have been sold off by the police departments and the arrested is already found not guilty.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:55 am to jb4
While I have no doubt Thomas' concurance will spawn a future granting of cert, it takes time for challenges to move up the ladder. With that said, I'm optimistic we will see a true challenge in the next couple of years.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:39 am to TiketheMiger
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What is a great idea in premise ends up being terrible when actually practiced.
EXAMPLES - Communism, Unregulated Capitalism, Marriage, Universal Health Care, Donald Trump presidency, Obama Presidency.
It's a pretty long list that fits here honestly
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:55 am to Five0
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This. One of the reasons it is used before a conviction is so that funds can be seized and not used to hire defense counsel. With the feds record on getting pleas and convictions I do not see this as a necessity. Even if then, the state should make sure they have a solid case
Violating the 4th A to suppress the 5th A. frick freedom and your rights. Police state for everyone!
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:58 am to TBoy
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Cause Jefferson Beauregard Sessions thinks that if black people have cash, it must be subject the seizure.
Jesus Christ. STUPID shite LIKE THIS IS WHY THE HELL TRUMP IS IN POWER YOU DUMBASS.
Civil Asset Forfeiture is a terrible, awful, no good thing, but as soon as you just vomit racism instead of actually attacking the multitude of actual issues with it, people just tune out.
When you cry the x-ist wolf every chance you get, people just lose it.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 10:05 am to Five0
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This. One of the reasons it is used before a conviction is so that funds can be seized and not used to hire defense counsel. With the feds record on getting pleas and convictions I do not see this as a necessity. Even if then, the state should make sure they have a solid case.
So tie it to an indictment if nothing else.
There are too many stories of literal highwsy robbery where the cop takes the cash, and hands over a paper saying essentially that you waive your right to claim that money in exchange for not being charged.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 10:08 am to Five0
Having a rationale doesn't somehow make a practice constitutional.
frick civil asset forfeiture and anyone who supports it.
frick civil asset forfeiture and anyone who supports it.
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