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re: Coleman Hughes on Rogan debating whether what Israelis are doing is genocide

Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:23 am to
Posted by sta4ever
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:23 am to
What’s the definition of genocide? Is it killing a large amount of a certain population, no matter the reason, or is it more complicated than that? Genocide is like the word racist to me. It isn’t used correctly.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:24 am to
The Gaza genocide as explicit policy.
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 7:24 am
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:25 am to
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A myopic but necessary point of view for those supporting Israel’s genocide.
return the hostages
Posted by Statestreet
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:26 am to
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Israel’s genocide.


You mean Hamas’ Genocide …. all they had to do is turn over the hostages.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:30 am to
It’s lazy and irresponsible to call this genocide.. it’s no more genocide than obtaining objectives in a war conflict..
Posted by Sput
Member since Mar 2020
7963 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:31 am to
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they cant coexist


Yes they can, I’ve seen the bumper stickers.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:42 am to
quote:

tell us how the holocaust or Rwanda was appropriate


I said the holocaust was NOT justified.

Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:49 am to
quote:

Genocide




Such hyperbole.

I’m convinced this generation would have absolutely wilted if we had to deal with the loss of life in war from WWI. Millions upon millions died across the globe, and never once was it called “genocide”
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
4624 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:52 am to
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What the Nazis did could not be excused. The jews had no aggression. They weren't attacking anyone.


so its wrong for people not attacking anyone to be killed correct?
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:54 am to
There’s absolutely zero facts to support the absurd opinion that Israel was or is committing genocide. People making tgat claim are distorting the definition.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53628 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:55 am to
This was two months ago. When Israel hammers Rafah, where are people supposed to go? It's a slow campaign of bomb, move, starve.




And here is the hunger situation per Blinky.


Here is the status of medical care.
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 8:12 am
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
16642 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:55 am to
We were in a 20 year war in the Middle East after the 911 attacks. Israel has been at war for 8 months.

Easy way to solve this. Release the prisoners. Turn over the leaders of Hamas.

But the Gazan’s won’t do that because they support the regime.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:55 am to
The "genocide" accusation is the dumbest thing ever. I can see Joe Rogan is going back to his Bernie Bro roots.

Genocide means to kill with the intent to eliminate a specific population.

Israel is not attempting to do that, nor do they want to do that.

Palestinians get killed in conflict. Simple as that.

The irony is that hamas' actions on Oct 7 were actual "genocide".
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53628 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:57 am to
Except for the case made before and ruled on by the ICJ. But, hey, the rules-based international order doesn't apply to Israel or the U.S.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:58 am to
Yea it technically means “to kill off an entire race”

So they can’t stop with Palestine, since it isn’t a race. They’d have to wipe out all Arabs
Posted by shrevetigertom
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2005
4026 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:58 am to
Is it genocide when you warn the population to evacuate an area before coming in? Not really. You people don’t understand what genocide is.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57429 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:00 am to
quote:

Easy way to solve this. Release the prisoners. Turn over the leaders of Hamas.


Hamas doesn’t want to solve it because their leaders make bank off war at the expense of “their own” people.

Hamas leaders are much like our race baiters over here like Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson. They don’t really want to solve anything because they get rich off of the problem.
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 8:02 am
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
16642 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:02 am to
You idiots also know that the civilian death to military combatants ratio is the lowest of any war ever… right?

So if Israel is doing genocide then they are horrible at it
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12784 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:08 am to
I commented before I watched the video.

Every single person, especially the Hamas sympathizers, should listen to Coleman Hughes perspective on this.

He ripped a gaping hole in joe rogan's vagina.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:12 am to
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This was two months ago. When Israel hammers Rafah, where are people supposed to go?


Hamas should have thought about that before October 7th. They decided to frick around, now they are finding out.

All they really need to do to begin the process of stopping all of this is to release the remaining hostages (if they are still alive), yet the continue to not do that so they continue to find out.

It's no more complicated than that unless someone is wanting to apologize for Hamas.

As a final note: Coleman Hughes is normally on point, his comments at the end of that Insta snippet were exceptional even for him. Hamas has perfected enmeshing itself into the civilian populace, especially with their cave systems and operation centers purposely built under and in schools, mosques and hospitals. This means that either they can sneak out from behind their human shields to kill, then flee back behind them at will or their enemy(ies) must then kill civilians in order to get to Hamas.

What Hamas is doing is considered a war crime, yet Israel is the one getting ignorantly plastered by sophists as "committing genocide".
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 8:31 am
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