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re: CNBC with the SOROS fake news. This is what Trump is talking about
Posted on 2/18/17 at 10:35 am to Blizzard of Chizz
Posted on 2/18/17 at 10:35 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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but the candidate you supported signs off on a deal to give those same Russians 20% of our uranium
This literally NEVER happened.....Clinton, along with a myriad of other state and federal regulators, signed off on the SALE of a PRIVATELY held uranium mine to a private company. The uranium wasn't OURS and it wasn't GIVEN to anyone one. There was no legal grounds for the sale to not go through....there was not threat to national security posed by the sale of this mine, which did not belong to the United States and did not belong to an American company in the first place, to a Russian mining company who already owns a fricking heaping pile of Uranium around the world....
Y'all are pretending as if Clinton accepted money and then, single handedly, handed over a resource that belonged to the people of the United States directly to the Russian Government. When the facts are clear...abundantly clear....that the only thing remotely questionable about the deal is the donations to the Clinton Foundation....there is absolutely NOTHING else there...but y'all either actually believe that Clinton took a bribe and handed a resource which belonged to the people over to the Russia Government OR, even worse, (being ignorant is excusable, being dishonest is not) are willfully spreading disinformation so a situation that very well could involve some impropriety on Clinton's part appears much worse than it is and it gets lost in the debate.
As far as Clinton taking bribes on this issue I would suggest that if there was anything illegal there that it would have been mentioned during the campaign. The insinuation was mentioned but the issue has been investigated as much as possible and, again, there is no there there.....
So, y'all pretend Clinton took a bribe and handed over a resource which belonged to the American people and when you have NO evidence at all and are actually actively lying about it when you say she gave the russians anything you claim that anyone who calls you out on it is spreading fake news and is a fool....y'all either aren't capable of distinguishing between fact and fiction or you are a bunch of liars....either way you should really clean up your own yard before you start in on other people's
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 10:36 am to germandawg
How's that Clinton foundation doing now?
Posted on 2/18/17 at 10:43 am to Jjdoc
It seems logical to progressives that all " news" should begin with marxist assumptions and be scrutinized through the lens of the angriest people in the faculty club. Meanwhile millions of " normals" just shake our heads at how dishonest and delusional the dominant media culture is. It is time to confront them and punish them.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 10:49 am to germandawg
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germandawg
We are talking Uranium. Even the strictest rational capitalist understands there are areas where private and public interests intersect.
This post was edited on 2/18/17 at 10:50 am
Posted on 2/18/17 at 10:51 am to jeff5891
quote:So you aren't familiar with PolitiFact. You should be. It is often quoted as a "fact checker".quote:Sure it is...../s
because PolitiFact is pure BS
Posted on 2/18/17 at 10:53 am to germandawg
Her foundation did receive millions from the CEO of Uranium One at the time Russian agency Rosatom was purchasing the Canadian company.
Although other agencies had to sign off on it she was one of them, and to pretend she wouldn't have major influence on the other agencies is you being ignorant or a liar.
She used her signature and influence for financial gain. That's the facts and is far from being a right wing conspiracy because that shite happened.
This post was edited on 2/18/17 at 11:03 am
Posted on 2/18/17 at 10:53 am to germandawg
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Eight agencies signed off on a PRIVATE deal between PRIVATE interests for the exchange of PRIVATE property....not US Owned property but property to belonged to investors....had the Clinton state department no agreed to the sale y'all would have been screaming about regulators standing in the way of commerce....
Again...9 agenices including state agencies approved the sale of private property to private companies....there were no states involved in the buying and selling.
Govt agencies have always had a say in the private sell/transportation of certain items to other countries. You cannot sell certain technology to other countries even though it may be a "pattoned" item.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 10:55 am to Jjdoc
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CNBC cited the left-wing, George Soros-linked PolitiFact to condemn President Donald Trump’s claims Thursday that Hillary Clinton’s State Department presided over the sale of 20 percent of U.S. uranium to Russia.
Regardless on if it's the uranium of the U.S. or not, she did facilitate the Russia's in obtaining more access to uranium. Luckily our friends in Australia and Canada sit on a boat load of it.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:04 am to AUbagman
quote:None of the Uranium in the US is allowed to leave the US. Part of the Uranium One deal involved another source of Uranium in Eastern Europe that is about 20 times the size. The US has more than enough Uranium. So does Russia. It isn't a scarce resource.
Regardless on if it's the uranium of the U.S. or not, she did facilitate the Russia's in obtaining more access to uranium. Luckily our friends in Australia and Canada sit on a boat load of it.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:06 am to mmcgrath
quote:
None of the Uranium in the US is allowed to leave the US.
Which is what my post said. Did Russia not in fact secure access to more Uranium through the deal, regardless of if it comes from the U.S.? And yes, uranium is a scarce resource, it is not renewable.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:10 am to TotesMcGotes
quote:Would you prefer the New York Times?
Breitbart.
LINK
ETA: Sorry, weptiger. Should have scrolled a bit farther.
This post was edited on 2/18/17 at 11:12 am
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:12 am to Jjdoc
Lawmakers probe US funding for Soros groups, left-wing causes in Europe
George Soros' alleged meddling in European politics has caught the attention of Congress.
Concerns about Soros' involvement most recently were raised by the Hungarian prime minister, who last week lashed out at the Soros "empire" and accused it of deplying "tons of money and international heavy artillery."
But days earlier, Republican lawmakers in Washington started asking questions about whether U.S. tax dollars also were being used to fund Soros projects in the small, conservative-led country of Macedonia.
George Soros' alleged meddling in European politics has caught the attention of Congress.
Concerns about Soros' involvement most recently were raised by the Hungarian prime minister, who last week lashed out at the Soros "empire" and accused it of deplying "tons of money and international heavy artillery."
But days earlier, Republican lawmakers in Washington started asking questions about whether U.S. tax dollars also were being used to fund Soros projects in the small, conservative-led country of Macedonia.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:18 am to NC_Tigah
quote:And is owned by a newspaper that endorsed Hillary. It's like Media Matters, pretending to be neutral but spinning everything to the left.
So you aren't familiar with PolitiFact. You should be. It is often quoted as a "fact checker".
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:20 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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This kind of foolish reasoning regarding uranium is freaking dangerous. On one hand you guys have been screaming about the Russians every chance you get, but the candidate you supported signs off on a deal to give those same Russians 20% of our uranium and your response is big fricking deal. This is why no one takes you seriously. There is no reasoning behind your line of thinking, just blind loyalty to one party and blind hatred for Donald Trump. You sir are a fool.
Well said.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:53 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
It is often quoted as a "fact checker".
Often called pure BS when they Call out your team member for lying.
This post was edited on 2/18/17 at 11:53 am
Posted on 2/18/17 at 1:18 pm to jeff5891
quote:That would hold water if there was evidence of even-handedness in fact finding. If the ratio weren't for example 23-to-4 in the pants on fire category, or consistently favoring Progs year after year, one might justifiably argue as you do.
Often called pure BS when they Call out your team member for lying.
Or if for example Politifact (aka DNC shill) did not rate ideas true just before Obama's 2008 election, then incredibly find the same concepts false but only AFTER his 2012 election.
Again, either you are taking a pro-politifact position because you're ignorant regarding the history, or you're a willful partisan. There's no third choice.
This post was edited on 2/18/17 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 2/18/17 at 3:50 pm to Jjdoc
Get a life, turd.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 3:59 pm to jeff5891
quote:
Clinton’s State Department was one of nine government agencies to approve Russia’s acquisition of a company with U.S. uranium assets. Nine people related the company at some point in time donated to the Clinton Foundation, but we only found evidence that one did so "while" the Russian deal was occurring.
quote:
The bulk of the $145 million in donations came two years before the deal.
So 8 people donate to CGI. two years prior and one person donates to CGI DURING a review of a massive deal about a strategic US resource being tranfered from US control to Russian control. The some total of those donation is $145,000,000.........
ONE HUNDRE AND FORTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS!!!!!!!!!
And HRC DID NOT recuse herself from the decision making process....
And TRUMP is attacked for conflict of interests...... and RUSSIANS!!!!.
The left in this country is lower than dog shite.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 4:01 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
The US has more than enough Uranium. So does Russia. It isn't a scarce resource.
Well, they sure paid a lot for this plentiful resource.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 4:07 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
quote:
And TRUMP is attacked for conflict of interests...... and RUSSIANS!!!!.
Just because Hillary did shady shite doesn't justify/excuse Trump for doing the same type of shite. I don't understand how Hillary doing something shady means all Trump's dealings are above board.
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