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re: Can you guys explain to me (a Mississippian) how Louisiana has a Democratic Gov?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:58 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:58 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
Well LA has the jungle primary in which all of the Republican candidates were more interested in staying in the mud of Vitter's sex life rather than focusing on the issues so that we could accomplish what the LA GOP has done for years......letting the people pick the best Republican candidate and then getting behind him in the runoff. Vitter then went to the mud and this basically fractured the party in the runoff.
The other major factor was the wolf in sheep's clothing, Jay Dardenne. This guy ran as a republican, got in the mud on Vitter like I said, then when Vitter made it into the runoff instead of himself he sold out to JBE for untold amounts of cash and a sweet gig as Commissioner of Administration under Edwards.
All of that plus trial lawyer money is how LA has a democrat as a governor.
The other major factor was the wolf in sheep's clothing, Jay Dardenne. This guy ran as a republican, got in the mud on Vitter like I said, then when Vitter made it into the runoff instead of himself he sold out to JBE for untold amounts of cash and a sweet gig as Commissioner of Administration under Edwards.
All of that plus trial lawyer money is how LA has a democrat as a governor.
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:59 am to LSU316
quote:
LA has the jungle primary
Are yall the only state in America that still uses this format?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:01 pm to LSU316
We are about to get raped with more taxes today just watch.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:02 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
I don't think for general elections....maybe some do for special elections.
I could be way off there though.
I could be way off there though.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:03 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Imagine Phil and Tate ran in the same primary and it got dirty and Jim Hood awaited the winner.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:04 pm to LSU316
regardless, republicans shouldn't vote for Jeff Landry. that dude is an idiot.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:05 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
David Vitter had too much baggage. JBE caught lightning in a bottle and had no real challenger. Don't think that will be the case next election.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:08 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
The Jay Dardenne endorsement swung the election in my and many others' opinion.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:10 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
quote:
In 2016, Landry became involved in a dispute with Governor John Bel Edwards over Landry's refusal to approve contracts to protect gay and lesbian employees from discrimination. Edwards then sued Landry over his refusal to approve the contracts, and a judge later ruled that Landry was not required to approve the contracts. In a press conference, Landry said, "I will not cower to executive overreach; rather, I will continue to defend our Constitution and the will of the people." Denying citizens protection from discrimination is in violation of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution which states "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." Therefore Landry's statement vowing to defend the constitution is complete bullshite.[28]
Speaking of Landry I just came across this tidbit on Wikipedia...you did that?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:11 pm to pwejr88
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The Jay Dardenne endorsement swung the election in my and many others' opinion.
If Jay Dardenne were to sit in front of me on fire I wouldn't piss on him to put it out.
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:11 pm to prplhze2000
quote:
Jim Hood
The only remaining Democratic state elected official in the state of MS only bc hes been there so long as AG and nobody has funded an opponent to run against him
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:17 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Actually all bullshitting aside.
Louisiana is a RED state nationally, but most voters don't give a shite about local politics. I mean they will complain but they don't give enough of a frick to vote unless it's a nation election. Louisiana governors election are on off cycles from presidential election. This greatly benefits the Blue inner cities of Louisiana. If the governors election were held on 11/8 They'd be fricked and they know it.
Louisiana is a RED state nationally, but most voters don't give a shite about local politics. I mean they will complain but they don't give enough of a frick to vote unless it's a nation election. Louisiana governors election are on off cycles from presidential election. This greatly benefits the Blue inner cities of Louisiana. If the governors election were held on 11/8 They'd be fricked and they know it.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:27 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
New Orleans
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:28 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
I'll throw my two cents in:
1. LA isn't as conservative as you might think. It is very socially and culturally conservative (christian, anti-abortion, pro gun, patriotic) but honestly not very fiscally conservative. That's partially because we are a poor state and the legacy of the Longs.
2. Under Jindal, taxes got cut quite a bit (I used passive voice for reason). Plus post-katrina money went away and oil prices dropped. Rather than rebalance the budget (or god forbid, undo the tax cuts) he did some cutting and implemented a lot of efficiencies, but he mostly used a lot of gimmicks. That plus looking like he cared more about president than governor made him relatively unpopular.
3. JBE was best suited to capitalize on 1 and 2. He was the democratic floor leader under Jindal so his "anti-Jindal credentials were impeccable. Vitter wasn't exactly pro-Jindal, but it wasn't as clear. JBE also fit the social conservative but not fiscally conservative mold with his west point/honor code/pro-gun/pro life image. At least compared to scandal ridden Vitter. Several liberal reporters disingenuously played up the "I can't even tell he is a democrat!" angle.
4. Lastly, Vitter is a jerk (allegedly). He went after the two over republicans (Dardenne and Angele) harshly enough that Angele refused to support Vitter and Dardenne actually endorsed JBE. Vitter's logic was "I want to get in a run-off with the democrat I can beat so I will attack the other republicans." Made sense at the time. But you add on the Vitter supposedly rubbed people the wrong way on an interpersonal level and you get republicans abandoning Vitter.
tldr version:
Unpopular Jindal
West point honor code
hookers
1. LA isn't as conservative as you might think. It is very socially and culturally conservative (christian, anti-abortion, pro gun, patriotic) but honestly not very fiscally conservative. That's partially because we are a poor state and the legacy of the Longs.
2. Under Jindal, taxes got cut quite a bit (I used passive voice for reason). Plus post-katrina money went away and oil prices dropped. Rather than rebalance the budget (or god forbid, undo the tax cuts) he did some cutting and implemented a lot of efficiencies, but he mostly used a lot of gimmicks. That plus looking like he cared more about president than governor made him relatively unpopular.
3. JBE was best suited to capitalize on 1 and 2. He was the democratic floor leader under Jindal so his "anti-Jindal credentials were impeccable. Vitter wasn't exactly pro-Jindal, but it wasn't as clear. JBE also fit the social conservative but not fiscally conservative mold with his west point/honor code/pro-gun/pro life image. At least compared to scandal ridden Vitter. Several liberal reporters disingenuously played up the "I can't even tell he is a democrat!" angle.
4. Lastly, Vitter is a jerk (allegedly). He went after the two over republicans (Dardenne and Angele) harshly enough that Angele refused to support Vitter and Dardenne actually endorsed JBE. Vitter's logic was "I want to get in a run-off with the democrat I can beat so I will attack the other republicans." Made sense at the time. But you add on the Vitter supposedly rubbed people the wrong way on an interpersonal level and you get republicans abandoning Vitter.
tldr version:
Unpopular Jindal
West point honor code
hookers
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:29 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Louisiana suddenly became such a moral state, especially Democrats and some in the middle, that people couldn't vote for a guy that fricked up 15 years ago and apologized for it, with no even hint of similar acts since.
Plus, despite incredible experience and qualifications, probably the highest/most that's ever run for the office, Vitter was kinda oddball in person and had also made a lot of enemies on the right over the years.
Plus, despite incredible experience and qualifications, probably the highest/most that's ever run for the office, Vitter was kinda oddball in person and had also made a lot of enemies on the right over the years.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:31 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Apparently some people in Louisiana would rather be screwed by a guy who was in the Army rather than vote for a guy who screws hookers.
Somehow morality got messed up with politics....people got all confused and shite.
Somehow morality got messed up with politics....people got all confused and shite.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:43 pm to LSU316
quote:
Speaking of Landry I just came across this tidbit on Wikipedia...you did that?
I did not. Vitter was a piece of shite, but he'd have had pull which would've benefitted the state but I don't think Edwards has been a bad governor objectively. Jindal fricked this state so hard.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:45 pm to BigJim
quote:"Harshly"? Dardenne and Angelle (predictably) wore out the hooker angle to try and gain traction even though they were losing the entire time, and after the jungle primary acted solely to promote their own best interests, not out of some repudiation of harshness.
He went after the two over republicans (Dardenne and Angele) harshly enough that Angele refused to support Vitter and Dardenne actually endorsed JBE.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:46 pm to USMCTiger03
On a non partisan take... how is JBE doing? I haven't heard much good or bad lately.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:47 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Because not everyone is a democrat or republican and they vote for who they think is the best candidate. Vitter was a horrible candidate and Edwards ran as a moderate(even though I never believed he was) which won him the election.
My question is: Where has Edwards been since the flood? I haven't heard or seen him since...
My question is: Where has Edwards been since the flood? I haven't heard or seen him since...
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