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re: Can you guys explain to me (a Mississippian) how Louisiana has a Democratic Gov?

Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36510 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:49 pm to
I didn't vote, but if I would have I probably would have given JBE my vote. Looking back, I'm happy I didn't vote for JBE. MSM killed Vitter. Maybe we can all apologize and ask him to run again.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29316 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:52 pm to
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but I don't think Edwards has been a bad governor objectively.


I can't say this until we see the real financial impact of the medicare expansion at the state level which may not be much longer since the big guy made it to Washington.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17279 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:55 pm to
Vitter's arrogance cost him the election, he refused to have any real debates unless he controlled the format, questions and audience, he felt he had this one in the bag and acted like it, if he would of played the roll of humble servant, come out and say what he did was wrong and move on, he might of had a chance
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29316 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:56 pm to
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come out and say what he did was wrong and move on


This I 100% agree with....he should have addressed it on day 1 of his campaign.
Posted by Mike Honcho
North Dallas
Member since Oct 2007
2927 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:08 pm to
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Edwards ran as a right leaning democrat.


He actually ran as an Army veteran who "supported" the cops. i.e. he did his best republican impression. You had to really dig that he was a democrat. If he had that front and center he would have been crushed.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14515 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:11 pm to
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"Harshly"? Dardenne and Angelle (predictably) wore out the hooker angle to try and gain traction even though they were losing the entire time, and after the jungle primary acted solely to promote their own best interests, not out of some repudiation of harshness.


To some degree yes. But I think the fact that Vitter is abrasive (at least to some) played a lot more into it that you are giving credit.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67212 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:14 pm to
JBE campaigned as a conservative democrat (pro-life, pro-guns, family values, ect). Vitter made it out of the jungle primary, but his negative campaign caused both other republicans to either endorse JBE or refuse to support Vitter. Vitter also refused to debate in the primary and never got out in front of the hooker scandal. By the time the general election rolled around, JBE had framed the election as a morality play. There was Vitter, a cereal philanderer who had taken phone calls from prostitutes rather than vote on a bill for veterans benefits, verses a West Point graduate and Army Ranger with an attractive loving family. JBE managed to hide the fact that he was a tax and spend liberal because the entire campaign was made to be about social issues.

Vitter's proposed tort reforms hacked off the trial lawyers, so they all broke for JBE.

JBE's family ties to the sheriff's association got him endorsements from all of the state law enforcement unions and agencies.

JBE's wife, who is a teacher, got him the teacher's union. JBE also lied and said he would protect charter schools, which kept many liberal New Orleanians, who send their kids to schools like Lusher, from defecting.

Vitter wanted to gut state government even more than Jindal did, so the state employees voted for JBE out of fear.

Add together every state employee, every teacher, every trial lawyer, every peace officer, every African American, and a sizeable chunk of evangelicals and you have an electoral majority. JBE rode that coalition to the Governor's mansion, but his honeymoon phase has already ended. He will face stiff opposition in 2019, likely from the state's attorney general, and former Tea Party Congressman, Jeff Landry.
Posted by DallasTiger
THE Capital City
Member since Jan 2004
4235 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:15 pm to
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Jay Dardenne


A gigantic piece of shite.
Posted by Quarterite
The Lower Quarter
Member since Oct 2016
959 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:20 pm to
One word: Jindal

In 2015, the out-going, two-term Republican governor Bobby Jindal was so unpopular in Louisiana that his approval rating fell to 32 percent — compared with 42 percent for President Obama....

He wrecked the budget, spent all his time sucking Grover Norquist's dong and running his doomed Presidential campaing while the state went to hell.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27968 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:25 pm to
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Jay Dardenne and Scott Angelle

Theres your reason

They stink up the Repub party like Jeb!, Kasich and Lindsey Graham
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:30 pm to
19th amendment, conservative women preferred a douche to a man that visited a whore.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14515 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:47 pm to
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On a non partisan take... how is JBE doing? I haven't heard much good or bad lately.



Really should be another thread.

But that said:

1. He raised a bunch of taxes. However, imho, some taxes did need to be raised.
2. He didn't really look to cut spending at all. So the cuts fell on TOPS by default.
3. Oh but public retirees got a COLA.
4. He handled the shootings well.
5. I think he handled the flooding well also. Some people have some complaints, but I think that might be more on FEMA/the feds.
6. He is really going after business. Supposedly lots of projects on hold because the business climate has gotten so bad. Hard to sort this one out objectively, but that seems right.

Probably missing a bunch of stuff.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22977 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:55 pm to
I dont care if you get caught with a hooker. Thats your business.

But I'll be damned if I vote for someone that has a diaper fetish. Thats weird as frick.

Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14515 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:00 pm to
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I dont care if you get caught with a hooker. Thats your business.

But I'll be damned if I vote for someone that has a diaper fetish. Thats weird as frick.


Da fuq?

So you don't care if someone broke the law, but you DO care about particular fetishes? Do you have a comprehensive list of private sexual acts that lose your support? And a list of ones that are acceptable?


That's an odd place to draw a line.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:04 pm to
Vitter is a "family values" Republican who vocally opposed things like marriage equality. When it was found out that he enjoyed betraying his family by paying prostitutes to change his soiled diapers in some sort of kinky mommy/baby fantasy, that made him look bad. When he continued vocally opposing LGBT rights after these findings, the level of hypocrisy had reached a level past which most Louisiana voters simply could not get.
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
4662 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:05 pm to
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Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47810 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:27 pm to
I didn't vote for JBE. He ran on a platform of no new taxes but then shorty after taking office passed one of the biggest tax bills ever.
Nice all you dumbasses that believed that lying sack of shite.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27725 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:46 pm to
David Vitter.

Yeah he was the Senator, but people were tired of him. No one really card that he was on a hooker's speed dial....in LA it could be considered a resume enhancement( EWE and Uncle Earl).

Vitter could have had it despite being the least likeable of the Republicans against Edwards. But he made the critical mistake of dogging out the other Republican candidates in the primary, especially Scott Angelle in Acadiana. Angelle was popular in Cajun Country because he was one of them and Cajuns are very protective of their own.

That's why and nothing else
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27725 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:48 pm to
Ballacrossthechin, so nice to hear from you again and as usual your observations are all wrong.
Posted by LSU Tiger Bob
South
Member since Sep 2011
3003 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:56 pm to
The Gov race is over. The question is will Louisiana send a democrat to the US Senate or a republican????

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