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re: At what point do people realize that Trump is a lost cause?
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:44 am to Landmass
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:44 am to Landmass
2022 made this crystal clear.
GOP did well with Virginia in 2021.
Trump stayed out of that race.
He then made himself the center of 2022.
Pennsylvania (Mastriano crashed and burned, so did Oz)
Arizona (Kari Lake got 100,000 fewer votes than Ducey in 2018)
Georgia (Walker got 190,000 fewer votes than Kemp)
Michigan (Stretchin Gretchen should have been easy to beat but Trump had to nominate Tudor Dixon—also John Gibbs)
Ohio (maga grifter Vance underperformed DeWine by ten points on the same ballot)
The list goes on and on, and we notice a clear pattern: voters rejected Trump candidates whose only platform was a trump endorsement and overturning 2020.
Ron stuck to the issues and won a former swing state with 59% of the vote.
GOP did well with Virginia in 2021.
Trump stayed out of that race.
He then made himself the center of 2022.
Pennsylvania (Mastriano crashed and burned, so did Oz)
Arizona (Kari Lake got 100,000 fewer votes than Ducey in 2018)
Georgia (Walker got 190,000 fewer votes than Kemp)
Michigan (Stretchin Gretchen should have been easy to beat but Trump had to nominate Tudor Dixon—also John Gibbs)
Ohio (maga grifter Vance underperformed DeWine by ten points on the same ballot)
The list goes on and on, and we notice a clear pattern: voters rejected Trump candidates whose only platform was a trump endorsement and overturning 2020.
Ron stuck to the issues and won a former swing state with 59% of the vote.
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Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:45 am to Landmass
quote:
Show me one example of these people converting to Trump.
Not only that, many of the people he described aren't really hurting to the point they'd be willing to vote for Trump.
The economy thing is really being overstated by Trump supporters. Maybe not overstated, but more of a Hail Mary.
When you have nothing to run on except "he can't be as bad as the guy in now", that's not a good place to campaign from. Not to mention, those middle aged white female voters absolutely hate Trump.
Trump supporters severely underestimate how much of this country absolutely despises him. They don't seek differing opinions, so they have no basis for reality.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:45 am to Landmass
quote:On this board? Won't happen because the only Trumpers are touched and cannot come to that realization. I mean, look at their posts
At what point do people realize that Trump is a lost cause?
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:46 am to AUCom96
quote:
Trump was about exposing and he's done that.
Ok. And what did he do about it when he had the chance?
Nada.
Hell, he re-authorized FISA after the dems used it against him.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:47 am to saint tiger225
quote:
When you have nothing to run on except "he can't be as bad as the guy in now", that's not a good place to campaign from.
And even that is going to vanish when they run Newsom.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:47 am to TDTOM
Trump already encouraged people not to
Vote. A truly amazing strategy.
Vote. A truly amazing strategy.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:47 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Stupid is, as stupid does.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:47 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:
what point will morons realize that this isnt about Trump? They will do this to anyone who stands in their way. Letting them have Trump's scalp and trying to fight this war all over again with another candidate only makes it harder to win.
There's the idiot talking points I've come to love!
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:47 am to Landmass
From a POLITICAL perspective, does it really matter at this point whether he is right or wrong? POLITICALLY, does it really matter whether he was impeached for "high crimes" or just because he is a monumental a-hole?
Because (either way) the net effect IS that he is a political liability ... an anchor around the neck for EVERYONE right of the political center.
(queue-up the HRC "does it really matter" gifs)
Because (either way) the net effect IS that he is a political liability ... an anchor around the neck for EVERYONE right of the political center.
(queue-up the HRC "does it really matter" gifs)
This post was edited on 8/2/23 at 11:48 am
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:47 am to Dex Morgan
quote:
Ron is fake. He speaks and acts just like every other politician.
You loved him until your messiah told you to not like him. He hasn't done anything like every other politician. I'm sorry that you are too dimwitted to see this.
He's taken on:
- CDC
- DOE
- DEI
- Disney, Budlight
- ESG
- WEF
- WHO
- CBDC
- Transgenderism
- Wokeness in schools
- DC & centralized powers
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:47 am to saint tiger225
quote:
Not to mention, those middle aged white female voters absolutely hate Trump.
His own middle aged white female wife can't stand him.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:48 am to hogcard1964
quote:
Stupid is, as stupid does.
Our votes aren't tabulated on a curve.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:49 am to Flats
Exactly.
It's amazing to me any Trump supporter can say, with a straight face, that Trump would suddenly win middle aged white women votes. They're probably the segment of our population that hate him the most. Whether right or wrong, that's just the truth.
It's amazing to me any Trump supporter can say, with a straight face, that Trump would suddenly win middle aged white women votes. They're probably the segment of our population that hate him the most. Whether right or wrong, that's just the truth.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:50 am to Landmass
We've transcended Trump.
This is about our free speech now.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:50 am to BobBoucher
quote:
The evidence is bullshite and these indictments will get tossed. It’s pure political persecution.
I'm not talking about the indictments. Those charges are complete garbage. Go back and read what I was responding to before you make silly accusations. The evidence that I was talking about is the evidence that Trump is a lost cause.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:51 am to saint tiger225
yep, he won't be able to overcome his unfavorabels. It doesn't matter how bad it gets for biden, there is a large segment of the population that will never vote for him. especially the wine moms.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:52 am to BobBoucher
quote:
Trump was a machine and did more for this country in his 4 years domestically and internationally than I’ve seen anyone do in 8 years.
Reagan had his frick-ups but he did far more than Trump and was a much much more powerful President. Reagan didn't play the victim game. Trump is not a fart in the wind to Reagan comparatively.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:53 am to Landmass
quote:
There is a dude in Florida busting down the establishment without all of the baggage.
Say Desantis wins. Let's say he attacks the deep state and starts ripping out the rotten weeds by the roots. What do you think will happen? They will do to Desantis what they are doing to Trump and you'll start a thread saying Desantis is a lost cause, why don't we elect Paul Ryan.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:54 am to saint tiger225
Really?
The establishment is allowed to ELIMINATE dissent via lawfare and the police state and a clearly two-tiered justice system, and cement their near-unlimited power for as long as they choose - while they grift openly all over the world, raking in millions in personal wealth. But they are going to totally stop doing that once Trump goes away? They are going to start behaving when they dont have to? Go back to losing elections to leaders who vow to dismantle their power?
Pick up a history book and you'll see how something like this always ends.
The establishment is allowed to ELIMINATE dissent via lawfare and the police state and a clearly two-tiered justice system, and cement their near-unlimited power for as long as they choose - while they grift openly all over the world, raking in millions in personal wealth. But they are going to totally stop doing that once Trump goes away? They are going to start behaving when they dont have to? Go back to losing elections to leaders who vow to dismantle their power?
Pick up a history book and you'll see how something like this always ends.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:54 am to Landmass
quote:
Apparently we can't have an honest conversation about uncomfortable truths.
Truths? Nothing you stated was "truth", it's simply your opinion. You know what they say about opinions.
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