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re: As it turns out, no, those four methods are not abortifacient

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Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:51 pm to
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The pills at issue, Plan B and Ella, do NOT work by blocking implantation
That is FALSE.
Posted by Paluka
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:52 pm to
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BlackHelicopterPilot


Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:54 pm to
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And the Church is wrong.

“These medications are there to prevent or delay ovulation. They don’t act after fertilization.”


Rex, this is word-for-word from the Plan B website FAQs:

LINK


quote:

It works mainly by stopping the release of an egg from the ovary. It is possible that Plan B One-Step® may also work by preventing fertilization of an egg (the uniting of sperm with the egg) or by preventing attachment (implantation) to the uterus (womb).
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:54 pm to
Did you read the article? WebMD is wrong.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:55 pm to
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Did you read the article? WebMD is wrong.


Is the Plan B website wrong as well?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:56 pm to
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Did you read the article? WebMD is wrong.


Okay.

How about Plan B one step's actual website.
LINK

Plan B One-Step® is one tablet with levonorgestrel, a hormone that has been used in many birth control pills for several decades. Plan B One-Step® contains a higher dose of levonorgestrel than birth control pills, but works in a similar way to prevent pregnancy. It works mainly by stopping the release of an egg from the ovary. It is possible that Plan B One-Step® may also work by preventing fertilization of an egg (the uniting of sperm with the egg) or by preventing attachment (implantation) to the uterus (womb).

They wrong too on how their actual product works?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:56 pm to
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Did you read the article?
ella can be effective up to five (5) days following intercourse and fertilization.

Clear?


This post was edited on 7/7/14 at 2:57 pm
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:56 pm to
Liberals want to protect those kids at the border, but kill the one's in Utero...Just Wow! This ruling had NOTHING to do with birth control, it just said Employers don't have to pay for 20% of those choices available...Hell, it should be 100%. Forcing others to pay for your recreational (privacy) issues, is flat out extortion, and the Supreme's seemed to agree...They did nothing to stop anyone from getting birth control....NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Paluka
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:57 pm to
Stop it, Rex. You have done a 180 degree turn since the decision came out. You aregued with BBonds forever and now you call the court corrupt after reading MSNBC's article. Now everyone is wrong but you? You are being anti-science.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:57 pm to
Did you read the article I linked? The FDA still requires Plan B to include warnings that have been found by study to be untrue.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:58 pm to
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The FDA still requires Plan B to include warnings that have been found by study to be untrue.

FALSE!
Posted by Paluka
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:58 pm to
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The FDA still requires Plan B to include warnings that have been found by study to be untrue.


Posted by Rex
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:59 pm to
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Stop it, Rex. You have done a 180 degree turn since the decision came out. You aregued with BBonds forever and now you call the court corrupt after reading MSNBC's article.

Everything I've said has been consistent.

I argued with Bbonds about what Alito actually said and meant, not about the merits of the decision.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:59 pm to
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Rex
As it turns out, no, those four methods are not abortifacient


You must have missed the memo Rex.

Corporations are now allowed to dictate that anything is an abortifacient. If a "closely held" company decides that soap is an abortifacient, they are exempt from having to provide hand soap for their employee's use in the bathrooms (they don't even need to supply bathrooms if they determine bathrooms can act as abortifacients)

Posted by Bleeding purple
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:00 pm to
Rex
I have a new avatar for you:
Posted by Paluka
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:01 pm to
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Everything I've said has been consistent.


Nope. Only in YOUR twisted little mind. Your threads have been terrible lately. I typically enjoy your threads but lately you've been way off.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:02 pm to
And, lo and behold, anti-abortion groups are fighting tooth and nail to keep government agencies and medical websites from updating their language about implantation that jives with current science.
Posted by SSpaniel
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:02 pm to
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If a "closely held" company decides that soap is an abortifacient, they are exempt from having to provide hand soap for their employee's use in the bathrooms (they don't even need to supply bathrooms if they determine bathrooms can act as abortifacients)


You do love your straw men, don't you? They seem to pop up in almost every post you make. (or is it Reductio ad absurdum... it always did get them confused)
This post was edited on 7/7/14 at 3:06 pm
Posted by SSpaniel
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:04 pm to
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And, lo and behold, anti-abortion groups are fighting tooth and nail to keep government agencies and medical websites from updating their language about implantation that jives with current science.


What about the actual manufacturer of the drug... are they anti abortion groups in cahoots with them as well?
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:06 pm to
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What about the actual manufacturer of the drug... are they anti abortion groups in cahoots with them as well?

The manufacturer is required by the FDA to include certain warnings about its drug before it can sell them. That particular warning about implantation is clearly OUTDATED, but anti-abortion groups want it to remain despite the science. Did you read the linked article?
This post was edited on 7/7/14 at 3:07 pm
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