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re: Army Times: Brig. Gen. Sinclair will retire as a lieutenant colonel
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:28 pm to Wolfhound45
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:28 pm to Wolfhound45
No
A. LTC pension is not that bad.
B. That there should be some monetary compensation to spouses on any level is insane.
C. Setting some sort of precedent like this would set off all sorts of imaginable and unimaginable effects.
A. LTC pension is not that bad.
B. That there should be some monetary compensation to spouses on any level is insane.
C. Setting some sort of precedent like this would set off all sorts of imaginable and unimaginable effects.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:43 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:
Spinoff question that we discuss amongst ourselves in the military community (particularly the spouses);
Should Mrs Sinclair receive half of his benefits at the brigadier general (retired) rate? She is being punished because of her husband's adultery.
She shouldn't be entitled to anything in any scenario either honorable or dishonorable IMO, but that isn't really what you asked.
To answer your question: She should get whatever entitlements she is due for the rank that her husband retired. She can take up whatever grievance she has about that with him, it isn't the military's problem IMO.
I know the lines get blurred with military and government programs and entitlements, but when it comes to retirement that is an issue that is between the person who signed the contracts and the employer, not the wife. She could have left at any point and nobody should be subsidizing the spouses risk in that deal. Just my opinion. Great question though.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:53 pm to MrCarton
Thanks to those of you that answered. This actually first came up when (then) Colonel Johnson was brought up on bigamy charges and was convicted. In the process, his wife divorced him and he was reduced and retired as a lieutenant colonel. She is entitled to half of his military retirement now. Problem is, that is a significant reduction in retirement pay (sorry OleWar).
My spouse believes she should have her half at his most senior rank (colonel). I am torn because you are both correct, this opens the door for a lot of other issues.
My spouse believes she should have her half at his most senior rank (colonel). I am torn because you are both correct, this opens the door for a lot of other issues.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:11 pm to Wolfhound45
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Kind of harsh. She faithfully served as a military spouse. Her husband did not faithfully serve as an Army officer as a colonel and a brigadier general. Just curious, are you married?
She benefitted from whatever service he did to rise to GO/FO rank, so she should understand that she will suffer whatever loss of status his misdeeds entail. It is harsh. But that's like asking if a murderer's child should suffer because his or her father is in the pen.
I've never been married. I was engaged for six months to a girl I still think about daily. But I was too immature (at 26) to do the right thing. She was German and probably the main reason I'm so fond of Germany.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:27 pm to Navytiger74
According to ethics expert and retired General Jack Grubbs this guy was a real piece of work. General Sinclair has made the cut in multiple ethics presentations given by Dr. Grubbs for his misdeeds.
The negative effect on the personnel surrounding him was apparently very real and significant and is disregarded in declaring this "just an affair".
The negative effect on the personnel surrounding him was apparently very real and significant and is disregarded in declaring this "just an affair".
Posted on 6/21/14 at 3:01 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
That's your lesson, not: follow the UCMJ?
Are you being funny or ducked in the head?
Are you being funny or ducked in the head?
Posted on 6/21/14 at 3:04 pm to Tigah in the ATL
I've been quite clear on this subject many many times on this board.
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