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Are some of you still against travel ban and extreme vetting?
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:05 pm
If so, why? I'm just trying to wrap my brain around how the left thinks. TIA 
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Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:06 pm to Uncle JackD
Absent specific threat, which may or may not exist at the moment, a travel ban is probably extreme overkill for the US
I'm certainly in favor of a high bar to be cleared for refugees from conflict areas, though.
I'm certainly in favor of a high bar to be cleared for refugees from conflict areas, though.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:08 pm to Uncle JackD
Against a travel ban? Of course. In favor of strong vetting and follow-ups, yes as well.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:10 pm to mmcgrath
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Against a travel ban? Of course. In favor of strong vetting and follow-ups, yes as well.
If the vetting process can't be performed to an acceptable level from said country, would you support a ban?
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:19 pm to Uncle JackD
I'm all for a travel ban from areas with demonstrated hostility and/or a lack of usable skills that those traveling to the U.S. fall to demonstrate. Want to come and work here then you had better be able to bring something to the table.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:20 pm to Uncle JackD
Maybe I'll form an opinion on "extreme vetting" once someone explains what that means
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:22 pm to Uncle JackD
How do you vet future children? Time and time again their offspring seem to be the problem.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:24 pm to Kino74
quote:No, but obviously very few or none would meet the vetting requirements if that were the case. No need for a ban.
If the vetting process can't be performed to an acceptable level from said country, would you support a ban?
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:24 pm to Pinecone Repair
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How do you vet future children?
Children generally share basic beliefs with their caregivers.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:26 pm to Uncle JackD
1. The travel ban was 90 days so it's already over anyway.
2. Extreme vetting? Yeah sure but what does that mean. The trump admin has offered no clarity.
2. Extreme vetting? Yeah sure but what does that mean. The trump admin has offered no clarity.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:27 pm to LSU Patrick
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Children generally share basic beliefs with their caregivers.
Then why are the 1st gen less likely to become radicalized or commit an act of terrorism?
Do you think they are grooming their offspring?
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:27 pm to Pinecone Repair
quote:Like you would any US citizen. If you detect contact with known terrorists, do heavy background checks.
How do you vet future children? Time and time again their offspring seem to be the problem.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:28 pm to LSU Patrick
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Children generally share basic beliefs with their caregivers.
Not so much in the internet age.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:29 pm to mmcgrath
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Like you would any US citizen. If you detect contact with known terrorists, do heavy background checks.
So, we haven't been doing that or has it just failed?
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:30 pm to mmcgrath
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No, but obviously very few or none would meet the vetting requirements if that were the case. No need for a ban.
Then in essence it would be a ban.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:30 pm to cahoots
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1. The travel ban was 90 days so it's already over anyway.
Given that the order was suspended, no it isn't--but you already knew that.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:33 pm to Pinecone Repair
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Do you think they are grooming their offspring?
Not necessarily, but I think they are less likely to intervene if their children are becoming radicalized.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:37 pm to LSU Patrick
That's different than-
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Children generally share basic beliefs with their caregivers.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:41 pm to Pinecone Repair
No. It's just more complex.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 12:44 pm to LSU Patrick
So, they are radicalized because their parents secretly are radicalized?
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