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re: AP: Islamic state claims responsibility. Shooter converted to Islam months ago

Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:25 am to
Posted by cheesesteak501
The South
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:25 am to
Yeah, I'm calling bullshite
Posted by Athletix
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:26 am to
Today is a somber day and there won't be much laughing and carrying on today.


But holy shite I burst out laughing at this post. These fools would come out with an official statement claiming anything. "Yep we did it, he's one of us!"


They remind me of that guy that goes on fishing trips and takes a picture of the days catch that everyone participated in and posts it all over IG showing how awesome he is at fishing
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:26 am to
If true, he will have left some evidence of it that he wanted found. It's not ISIS's typical MO to claim random incidents, OTOH they are on the ropes and may be desperate for something that keeps them relevant.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:26 am to
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Mildly irresponsible to report this without more info on APs part



Why? It looks to be an official ISIS claim through official ISIS channels
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:26 am to
Well that might explain his social media getting scrubbed.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:28 am to
ISIS specifically mentioned Las Vegas in a May 2017 video. Which automatically puts this somewhere on the plausibility scale. A trip to Dubai make it a little more. A 64 year old white guy from Mesquite NV makes it a lot less...
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:28 am to
I've always wondered about the credibility of these claims.

BREAKING NEWS: Man trips over rock and splits head open and dies.
BREAKING NEWS part 2: ISIS says rocks have converted to Islam months ago.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:28 am to
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A trip to Dubai make it a little more.


What's this?
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:29 am to
It's weird.

Maher, who recently released what may be the definitive book on Salafi Jihadism, is saying that if the statement is authentic, it's highly likely there was an ISIS connection
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:29 am to
Told all of you
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:30 am to
"People are saying........."
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:30 am to
The claim is official but its interpretation is suspect. Either people straight up won't believe ISIS' claim or they'll believe something with little evidence. Doesn't have much purpose to report imo but I guess it doesn't hurt much either.
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 9:30 am
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51806 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:30 am to
Someone explain the Dubai trip please.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:31 am to
Bunch of Moslem apologists up in here - was definitely Islamic terror
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:32 am to
Yay, timeout is over

If he converted, I'd have to assume he was being watched, yes?

No way a 64 year old white dude knew how to keep his online tracks scrubbed
Posted by Port Royal
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Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:32 am to
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Someone explain the Dubai trip please.



sounded like it was speculation
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98188 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:32 am to
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Someone explain the Dubai trip please.


Wasn't his wife Filipino? There are a lot of Filipino workers in Dubai. Could have been going to visit family. Or it could be nefarious.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101436 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:32 am to
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quote:
Someone explain the Dubai trip please.


sounded like it was speculation


Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79221 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:32 am to
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The claim is official but its interpretation is suspect. Either people straight up won't believe ISIS' claim or they'll believe something with little evidence. Doesn't have much purpose to report imo but I guess it doesn't hurt much either.



I mean, if the claim is real (and not like some photoshopped fabrication), it's newsworthy IMO. For example, ISIS has not claimed the Edmonton attack.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:32 am to
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It's weird.

Maher, who recently released what may be the definitive book on Salafi Jihadism, is saying that if the statement is authentic, it's highly likely there was an ISIS connection


I don't think anyone is doubting that ISIS has "formally" claimed the guy and his actions. The doubt is whether it's bullshite, or not.

That said, you are correct. Plenty of shite has gone down where they have not claimed responsibility.

IF (and it is a BIG frickING IF) it is actually true, whoa Nelly!
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