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re: Abraham Lincoln monument torched in Chicago: ‘An absolute disgraceful act’

Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:34 pm to
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

Time to take down the Lincoln memorial and put up the sassy black housekeeper he employed that really was behind his tenure as president.


Don't worry, I'm sure it will be a movie in a year or two. Lincoln will be this clumsy clown who secretly has to consult a few sassy black ladies in the white house who secretly win the whole civil war.

It will win every award ever made.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

If you foolishly consider RE Lee 'racist' because you are applying today's standards you must also consider old Abe the same. Feel free to explain how this logical conclusion is incorrect


Since I fully understand how all this played out I don't think I have ever implied that Lee's actions were racist.

If i do? I don't. So what on earth are you talking about? Please don't sound like a moron.

Lee is grossly overrated as a general. he -never- had any decisive successive success in war. Ever.

In fact, he decisively hurt the rebel cause by his conduct of operations during the period where he typically gets the most kudos. That would be the Chancellorsville campaign. Apparently most of you neo-rebs are not very familiar with that campaign. In Lee's Lieutenants D.S. Freeman tells us that during that period, Lee's army lost 238 field grade officers. You probably don't know what that is. Field grade officers are majors, lieutenant colonels and colonels. The officers who make combat operations go.

So driving off the tactically inept Hooker in May actually weakened - fatally weakened - the insurgent cause in July.

Right? Because -nothing- went right on the Gettysburg campaign. Did it? Just thousands and thousands more dead laid at the feet of Marse Bobby.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 7:41 pm
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:42 pm to
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Since I fully understand how all this played out I don't think I have ever implied that Lee's actions were racist.

If i do? I don't. So what on earth are you talking about? Please don't sound like a moron.
I was talking about the OP. I was talking about antifascists. It's exactly what I said. You're the one who struggled with comprehension and you're the one who challenged me and then went off on crazy tangents deifying Lincoln and denigrating Lee and so on

Moron. Have fun with your non-reading kneejerk insanity
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 7:45 pm
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:45 pm to
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Your apologizing for Lincoln is weird. You can say you love him even though we was a racist but you won't be able to say he wasn't a racist at all. That's just dumb


Lincoln's ideas on how the races should interact were very advanced for his time.

Colored troops cheer President Lincoln

"The President Cheered. During President Lincoln’s visit to Gen. Grant’s army: “The noticeable feature of the ride was the passing of a brigade of negro troops. The troops were lounging by the roadside, but seemed to know who was approaching. They came rushing, and almost to the horses feet, by hundreds , screaming, yelling, shouting, ‘Hurrah for the Liberator’ ‘Hurrah for the President!’ and were perfectly wild with excitement and delight. It was a spontaneous outburst of genuine love and affection for the man they look upon as their ‘deliverer from bondage’ and their wild huzzas were deafening. The President uncovered his head as he rode through their ranks, and bowed on every hand to his sable admirers.”

(Liberator, July 8, 1864, pg 3)

Apparently not seen as racist by those black troops.
Posted by Wtxtiger
Gonzales la
Member since Feb 2011
7257 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:57 pm to
There are only two ways this can end with motherfrickers like you.
Either we split this country into smaller countries and do it peacefully
Or
We will have to kill all of you.
Either way, living with the left post Obama has become impossible.

Like I've said, I wish the Norks would hit us with an EMP and cut the electricity off for a year. No cops, no phones, no courts, no rules. This way we can finish this.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

Lincoln's ideas on the relationship between races were very advanced for his time.


Not according to the quotes by Lincoln that I posted.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

Since I fully understand how all this played out I don't think I have ever implied that Lee's actions were racist. If i do? I don't. So what on earth are you talking about? Please don't sound like a moron.

I was talking about the OP.


I seem to have responded directly to your note directed to me.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

Lincoln's ideas on the relationship between races were very advanced for his time.

Not according to the quotes by Lincoln that I posted.


Quotes from 1858 that you like.

"In some respects she certainly is not my equal; but in her natural right to eat the bread she earns with her own hands without asking leave of any one else, she is my equal, and the equal of all others."

Also from 1858.

From 1865:

"It is also unsatisfactory to some that the elective franchise is not given to the colored man. I would myself prefer that it were now conferred on the very intelligent, and on those who serve our cause as soldiers."

4/11/65.




Advocating for the vote for black soldiers doesn't sound racist.

A curator at one of the Lincoln sites was asked about people like you. He said they wanted to freeze Mr. Lincoln in time and brand him with certain quotes and deny or ignore other things he said.

Would that be you?
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 8:30 pm
Posted by autauga
Member since Sep 2015
3657 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:29 pm to
This might actually be a good thing. A lot of eyes could get opened.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134904 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

He said they wanted to freeze Mr. Lincoln in time and brand him with certain quotes and deny or ignore other things he said.

Yeah, only the left is allowed to do that shite. I can see how they'd be angry with someone stealing the tactic.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

He said they wanted to freeze Mr. Lincoln in time and brand him with certain quotes and deny or ignore other things he said.

Yeah, only the left is allowed to do that shite.


Whatshisname may be upset that you called him a leftist.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:34 pm to
quote:


Advocating for the vote for black soldiers doesn't sound racist.

A curator at one of the Lincoln sites was asked about people like you. He said they wanted to freeze Mr. Lincoln in time and brand him with certain quotes and deny or ignore other things he said.

Would that be you?


Nope, I don't want to deny or ignore any quotes Lincoln made.

Do you?
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:34 pm to
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We will have to kill all of you.


What is your military experience?

I mean that fat frick Fields who killed Heather Heyer at least went to boot camp. He is a good nazi.

Well, Army basic training was beyond him. Discharged without graduating.

He'll be a lot of fun in gen pop.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134904 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:35 pm to
quote:


Whatshisname may be upset that you called him a leftist.
And you may be upset because you agree with him.

Tell us more stories about the joos and the new world order, paw paw.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:35 pm to
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Nope, I don't want to deny or ignore any quotes Lincoln made.


Did you call President Lincoln a racist?
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

Tell us more stories about the joos and the new world order, paw paw.


Let's just stay on topic.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134904 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:39 pm to
I thought you vowed to leave this board forever. I suppose not all Marines keep their word.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15805 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

quote:
Lincoln was a Republican



I know that, idiot leftists don't.


Lincoln was anything but a modern day Republican.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Nope, I don't want to deny or ignore any quotes Lincoln made.


quote:

Did you call President Lincoln a racist?


The quotes I posted by President Lincoln speak for themselves.

The terms used today to describe a person who said and believed what President Lincoln said and believed about black and white people are "racist" and "white supremacist".

Do you deny that?

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140865 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 9:07 am to
Lincoln was a racist. True story.
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