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re: Abraham Lincoln monument torched in Chicago: ‘An absolute disgraceful act’
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:37 pm to Codythetiger
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:37 pm to Codythetiger
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Man, so now we are destroying the people who ended slavery?
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:39 pm to i am dan
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Looks like that monument in da hood.
Very much so. That is perhaps the very worst part of the Southside. It's a little 4 foot tall statue on the corner.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:40 pm to MrLarson
Anything that happened before Obama has got to go!
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:52 pm to MrLarson
So does anyone have any reasonable proof it was someone on the left who did this?
Or did we skip right over that and immediately start with the circle jerk?
Or did we skip right over that and immediately start with the circle jerk?
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:55 pm to Catman88
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Imagine if Trump had a plan to send black people to Africa. lol
I would donate!
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:57 pm to ctalati32
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So does anyone have any reasonable proof it was someone on the left who did this?
Reasonable went out the door long ago.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:00 pm to MrLarson
What will happen if an MLK Statue is destroyed?
Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:14 pm to ctalati32
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So does anyone have any reasonable proof it was someone on the left who did this? Or did we skip right over that and immediately start with the circle jerk?
You seen many on the right tearing down statues lately?
Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:17 pm to Kirk Herbstreit
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What will happen if an MLK Statue is destroyed?
I've thinking about that as well. I think the left would lose its collective shite. I'm surprised cities like Atlanta haven't added security to them.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:18 pm to Kirk Herbstreit
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What will happen if an MLK Statue is destroyed?
It is probably only a matter of time. The media and the left will lose their shite and call for all white men to be rounded up.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:33 pm to genro
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So was itbConfederate sympathizers mad about the Civil War or was it antifascists mad that Lincoln was an authoritarian racist?
The terms 'racist' and 'racism' were not used prior to the 1930's so you'd be wrong. Not a big surprise.
Lincoln's ideas on the relationship between races were very advanced for his time.
Any historical person should be considered by the standards of -his- or -her- era.
Lincoln was clearly willing to put emancipation of the slaves on the back burner.
But what he DID do that was definitive was to categorically reject any extension of slavery into the national territories after his election in 1860.
South Carolina published its secession documents two weeks later.
"During the secession crisis, between his election in November 1860 and his inauguration in March 1861, leaders of Lincoln’s own party—including the radical Seward—begged him to agree to a compromise on the extension of slavery. Indeed a majority of Republicans in Congress seemed bent on restoring the Missouri Compromise as a means of persuading the slave states to stay in the Union, and not incidentally, as a means of preventing insurrection and civil war. Lincoln’s second profound effect on the politics of his time was the immediate result of his adamant refusal to compromise in any way on the principles that elected him (albeit with only 39.8% of Northern voters).
That refusal, even in the face of mounting evidence that a majority of his fellow Republicans wanted to compromise, caused a new set of secession ordinances in the upper South, and so, at another remove, the Civil War itself. But Lincoln had no qualms about the bloody consequences of his nearly unique rigidity. “Hold firm, as with a chain of steel,” he kept writing to wavering comrades, “the tug [of war] has to come, and better now than at any time hereafter.” Or in a variation on the theme: “Let there be no compromise on the question of extending slavery. If there be, all our labor is lost, and ere long, must be done again. The dangerous ground—that into which some of our friends have a hankering to run—is Pop Sov. Have none of it. Stand firm. The tug has to come, and better now than at any time hereafter.”
Lincoln did “stand firm.” For unlike the Free Soil mainstream of his party, which always insisted that the “negro question” was irrelevant to its anti-slavery program, he knew that this struggle was about a new nation already in the making. As he explained to Congressman J. T. Hale in a confidential letter of January 11, 1861: “What is our present condition? We have just carried an election on principles fairly stated to the people. Now we are told in advance the government shall be broken up unless we surrender to those we have beaten, before we take the offices. In this they are attempting to ply upon us or they are in dead earnest. Either way, if we surrender, it is the end of us and of the government."
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This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:55 pm to WhiskeyPapa
quote:What am I wrong about?
The terms 'racist' and 'racism' were not used prior to the 1930's so you'd be wrong. Not a big surprise.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 5:00 pm to MrLarson
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This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 8/17/17 at 5:01 pm to Kirk Herbstreit
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What will happen if an MLK Statue is destroyed?
At some point, this is gonna happen. In retaliation.
Then you're really gonna see it hit the fan.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 5:03 pm to Catman88
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This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 8/17/17 at 5:05 pm to MrLarson
Sounds like the leftists have turned on the "Great Emancipator".
Posted on 8/17/17 at 5:06 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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The terms 'racist' and 'racism' were not used prior to the 1930's so you'd be wrong. Not a big surprise.
I swear you are one smarmy old coot and full of shite.
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The Oxford English Dictionary's first recorded utterance of the word racism was by a man named Richard Henry Pratt in 1902. Pratt was railing against the evils of racial segregation.
Full of shite
Posted on 8/17/17 at 5:06 pm to SouthernHog
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this is genocide of our past.
You are quick.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 5:39 pm to ctalati32
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So does anyone have any reasonable proof it was someone on the left who did this?
quote:Sounds like a lifelong conservative thinker to me.
“F- Abe Lincoln,” responded Quintin Mitchell, whose comment was “liked” or deemed “funny” by 160 others.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 6:29 pm to genro
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The terms 'racist' and 'racism' were not used prior to the 1930's so you'd be wrong. Not a big surprise.
What am I wrong about?
Lincoln couldn't be a racist because no one was a racist when he was alive.
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