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re: 25 Muslim taxi drivers refuse to drive cabs displaying "Gay Games" ads
Posted on 4/18/14 at 11:53 pm to SpidermanTUba
Posted on 4/18/14 at 11:53 pm to SpidermanTUba
quote:
Looks like they withdrew from participating in the market where regulation would have required them to display the ad.
And that would matter if it was even remotely connected to the point I was making.
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 11:55 pm to SpidermanTUba
quote:Will there be a public outcry demanding that they lose their jobs, like there was with the Mozilla CEO?
Looks like they withdrew from participating in the market where regulation would have required them to display the ad.
So you're full of shite. If this had been a Christian - they wouldn't have withdrawn from driving airport cabs - they would have insisted its their right to do whatever the frick they want wherever they want regardless of the law so long as God gives them the A-Ok.
If you can point to a law that has been broken - let us know. But I'm pretty sure not participating in a particular avenue of commerce when regulations would have compelled you to act a way you refuse to act isn't a crime.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 11:56 pm to Roger Klarvin
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And that would matter if it was even remotely connected to the point I was making.
Your point is null and void since - as I've pointed out - Christians would not have done this. They would have insisted it was their right to display or not display whatever God tells them to display or not display on their cabs and continued to drive to the airport - and when some guy carrying a gun made them stop - they would have whined straight to FOX News.
I mean frick - are you the only who is allowed to conjure hypothetical and speak of it as fact - or am I allowed to as well?
Or are the facts relevant at all?
This post was edited on 4/18/14 at 11:57 pm
Posted on 4/18/14 at 11:59 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Your point is null and void since - as I've pointed out - Christians would not have done this.
It's irrelevant. The initial act of objection would have been sufficient to draw the ire of the media and it would all over the news. Nothing done after the fact would compare to the initial outrage.
Look, you wont find me supporting Christianity on a regular basis but we both know Islam is treated differently from every other ideology. Anyone else would have been a bigot just for objecting n the first place.
This post was edited on 4/19/14 at 12:01 am
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:01 am to L.A.
quote:
Will there be a public outcry demanding that they lose their jobs, like there was with the Mozilla CEO?
Maybe and if they are fired, it will be because the cab company doesn't want it to hurt business. Welcome to capitalism and free enterprise.
I don't see anything wrong with the potential fallout from this. Even if someone isn't breaking a law, the public can still not like it and boycott that company.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:03 am to Roger Klarvin
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The initial act of objection would have been sufficient to draw the ire of the media and it would all over the news. Nothing done after the fact would compare to the initial outrage.
Are you actually presenting a hypothetical as fact to be used as evidence in an argument?
YES OR NO?
BTW when these Mulsim taxi drivers assert their Constitutional rights have been violated - let us know.
This post was edited on 4/19/14 at 12:04 am
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:03 am to Roger Klarvin
And yes, I agree that because they are Muslim, people will be more apprehensive of condemning them. Why? Because Muslims have been so routinely targeted in this country since 9/11.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:03 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Care to have a friendly wager? No money, just the right to say "I told you so."
Maybe
I say that no national leftist group, and no national gay group will demand that these 25 Muslim cabbies be fired.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:05 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Or because far too many Muslims are bat-shite crazy and do things like declare fatwas on people for drawing cartoons?
Why? Because Muslims have been so routinely targeted in this country since 9/11.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:06 am to Roger Klarvin
It would be news if it were an American Christian.
Because we expect more.
American media doesn't expect much from a stunted culture - using this religion to stunt their mental advancement.
Nobody says...they sure know sex. It's an infantile society of sexually frustrated people...circa Christians 300 years ago.
It's like a time capsule. This used to be your gran-gran-gran-parents ala Hawthorne.
Because we expect more.
American media doesn't expect much from a stunted culture - using this religion to stunt their mental advancement.
Nobody says...they sure know sex. It's an infantile society of sexually frustrated people...circa Christians 300 years ago.
It's like a time capsule. This used to be your gran-gran-gran-parents ala Hawthorne.
This post was edited on 4/19/14 at 12:07 am
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:08 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:
Muslims have been so routinely targeted in this country since 9/11.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:08 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:
Are you actually presenting a hypothetical as fact to be used as evidence in an argument?
Ah, we're going to play dumb I see
If one is lactose intolerant, they don't need to eat yogurt again to know what's going to happen if they do.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:10 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:
Why? Because Muslims have been so routinely targeted in this country since 9/11.
Yeah, I'm gonna go with it has more to do with the repeated videos of them cutting the heads off of people who are in anyway remotely associated with Islamic criticism.
Call me crazy, though.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:30 am to Roger Klarvin
There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. I'm sorry but it's not right to treat every Muslim you come in contact with harshly because of the extremists. The percentage of extremist is a small fraction of the total number of Muslims.
Back on topic though, people will be more apprehensive to condemn a group that has been a target historically and who is a minority. Same with blacks and gays.
Back on topic though, people will be more apprehensive to condemn a group that has been a target historically and who is a minority. Same with blacks and gays.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:33 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:
Because Muslims have been so routinely targeted in this country since 9/11.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:52 am to REG861
Not sure why you guys are laughing. Watch Fox News for like 30 minutes and you'll see some type of fear-mongering regarding Islam.
Just yesterday, former Tea Party congressman and current Fox News contributor Allen West warned of a plot of Muslims seeking to destroy America by voting and becoming a political party.
https://m.freespeech.org/text/allen-west-takes-fox-news-attack-muslim-americans-voting-engaging-politics
I worry some people don't really understand what America and freedom stands for.
Just yesterday, former Tea Party congressman and current Fox News contributor Allen West warned of a plot of Muslims seeking to destroy America by voting and becoming a political party.
https://m.freespeech.org/text/allen-west-takes-fox-news-attack-muslim-americans-voting-engaging-politics
I worry some people don't really understand what America and freedom stands for.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 1:06 am to Mickey Goldmill
I'll just leave this here. Disagree all you want, but don't laugh and act like it's a ridiculous notion that Muslim Americans face targeting and discrimination.
https://www.progressive.org/study-muslim-americans-face-widespread-job-discrimination
https://www.progressive.org/study-muslim-americans-face-widespread-job-discrimination
quote:
An analysis conducted by Carnegie Mellon researchers discovered that applicants who self-identified as Muslim on their social media profiles were called back at a lower rate nationwide by prospective employers than Christians with the exact same names and qualifications. And it’s worse in conservative states. “In more Republican-leaning states, only 2 percent of applications by the Muslim candidate received interview invitations compared to 17 percent for the Christian candidate,” the study finds.
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The findings of the study are not surprising, given the barrage of media reports that tie Muslim Americans to terror plots, creating a false impression that Muslim Americans are prone to violence and anti-Americanism. “Since 9/11, Muslim-American terrorism has claimed thirty-three lives in the United States, out of more than 180,000 murders committed in the United States during this period,” stated a report from February of this year (PDF) by the Triangle Center on Terrorism and Homeland Security. “Over the same period, more than 200 Americans have been killed in political violence by white supremacists and other groups on the far right, according to a recent study published by the Combating Terrorism Center at the U.S. Military Academy.”
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A USA Today/Gallup poll in 2011 found that almost three in ten Americans think Muslim Americans to be indulgent toward Al Qaeda. In a Gallup survey from the same year, one-third of Protestants and Catholics deemed American Muslims to be sympathetic to the terrorist organization.
This post was edited on 4/19/14 at 1:08 am
Posted on 4/19/14 at 1:15 am to L.A.
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This will be an interesting case study, on the heels of the Mozilla CEO debacle. Let's see how the Left, especially the gay rights movement, responds to this.
Yep.
I support gay marriage and two consenting adults having the freedom to marry but it would be quite a fall in self respect for the gay rights movement if they don't go after these taxi drivers. They need to be consistent if they don't want to be seen as hacks.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 1:16 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:
Because Muslims have been so routinely targeted in this country since 9/11.
You can't be serious.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 1:32 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:You must be wrong. My preacher said our president is Muslim.
Because Muslims have been so routinely targeted in this country since 9/11.
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