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1992 Ross Perot predicted our country after Nafta
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:52 pm
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:53 pm to 756
That guy's hard on for fricking over GHWB is what gave us 8 years of Clinton. He was right about NAFTA though.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:54 pm to 756
That has not happened in the aggregate.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:55 pm to 756
Boom
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:57 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
quote:
That guy's hard on for fricking over GHWB is what gave us 8 years of Clinton. He was right about NAFTA though.
Actually him being a pussy and not having a set like tDonald is why we didn't have a President Perot and no NAFTA, no Clinton(s) and a lot of the other bullshite we've had to endure.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:00 pm to More&Les
I think what ruined his chance of being President was lost when he introduced his running mate. That guy was looney tunes.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:09 pm to mtntiger
quote:
I think what ruined his chance of being President was lost when he introduced his running mate. That guy was looney tunes.
I was a child back in them days so I don't know who that is but if I had to guess it would be assassination insurance (if the guy actually was looney).
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:17 pm to zatetic
Just think if George H would have recognized the danger of NAFTA .
George H did not get the blue collar factory worker any more than HRC did.
George H did not get the blue collar factory worker any more than HRC did.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:18 pm to 756
I get that it's sad to see manufacturing jobs go by the wayside. But a lot of it is a natural progression of our technological advancements as well.
What I don't get though, is why we aren't focusing on the fact that there has been record job openings going unfilled.
There are jobs available, why don't we figure out ways to get the filled (education, skills, etc.) too? And if we can add even more jobs, manufacturing or otherwise, then that's even better.
What I don't get though, is why we aren't focusing on the fact that there has been record job openings going unfilled.
There are jobs available, why don't we figure out ways to get the filled (education, skills, etc.) too? And if we can add even more jobs, manufacturing or otherwise, then that's even better.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:21 pm to mtntiger
quote:No offense, but you have no idea what the frick you're talking about.
I think what ruined his chance of being President was lost when he introduced his running mate. That guy was looney tunes.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:26 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
education, skills, etc.)
I don't believe this perspective is realistic. You aren't training hammer swingers to be financial analysts no matter how much we would all like that to be possible. You are always going to have a capability distribution with a ton of people who aren't capable of performing "21st century" jobs.
So you have one of a few options:
1) Let them starve
2) Protect their jobs
3) Allow their jobs to vanish and tax the shite of out of the increased productivity and give them money
1 sucks , 2 hurts the overall economy, and 3 destroys people
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:30 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:Of course not. But there are plenty of lower skilled jobs available.
You aren't training hammer swingers to be financial analysts no matter how much we would all like that to be possible.
I just had a conversation with some educators, and apparently there are hundreds of bus driving positions, clerical positions, etc. that can't be filled within Columbus City Schools.
Granted, unemployment is low here, and the economy is booming, but jobs are available only a couple hours from the heart of the Rust Belt.
And Amazon just opened some centers here, and are constantly advertising the jobs available. Those are low skill jobs too.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:32 pm to buckeye_vol
There's a way to fill unfilled low skill jobs without any government intervention whatsoever.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:33 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
I get that it's sad to see manufacturing jobs go by the wayside. But a lot of it is a natural progression of our technological advancements as well.
This will go over well.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:34 pm to therick711
quote:Sure. But why are we so depressed about job loss when there are jobs available?
There's a way to fill unfilled low skill jobs without any government intervention whatsoever.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:38 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
Of course not. But there are plenty of lower skilled jobs available
I guess we lump a lot into low skill, but are we really equating auto assembly and bus driving ?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:47 pm to More&Les
quote:So, it's HIS fault that Americans are dumbed-down, ignorant, narcissistic sheople.
That guy's hard on for fricking over GHWB is what gave us 8 years of Clinton. He was right about NAFTA though.
Actually him being a pussy and not having a set like tDonald is why we didn't have a President Perot and no NAFTA, no Clinton(s) and a lot of the other bullshite we've had to endure.
Thanks for the clarification. I was wondering who's fault it is/was.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:27 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:No, but I don't see how we can fret about a lack of jobs, when there are over 5 million jobs available across various skill levels and educational requirements.
I guess we lump a lot into low skill, but are we really equating auto assembly and bus driving ?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:35 pm to mtntiger
quote:
That guy was looney tunes.
This was my first time voting so I remember the election.
Perot's VP pick was a senile retired admiral from the civil war. The VP debate was cringeworthy, sad and comic gold.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:36 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I'm so glad your team lost
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