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re: Which human being has made the biggest impact on human history?

Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:34 pm to
Posted by AZTarheeel
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:34 pm to
Al Gore
Posted by gorillacoco
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:35 pm to
I would have to agree that Jesus was the most influential historical figure in western history. This is still overshadowed by the population and culture of Asia which far outweighs all of western civ.
Posted by gorillacoco
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:36 pm to
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Gengis Khan is a very important figure in history. But to say his impact on history is bigger than that of Christ, is absurd.


Please elaborate how western culture was altered more than the Mongolian conquering of the Asian continent.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:37 pm to
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And you're a brainwashed moron. But that's not exactly a revelation




Oh, poor stupid little boy got his little sensitive feelings hurt.

You poor, dumb little idiot. You're so deluded and dumb that you've tricked yourself into thinking you're smart. Truth be told, you're nothing but an impudent, stupid little shite who doesn't know his arse from a hole in the ground.

You've got a lot of growing up to do and a lot ot learn about this world, stupid little boy.
This post was edited on 4/17/15 at 11:38 pm
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:37 pm to
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So that'd be the Knights Templar, then, the inventors of international banking.



Ya, if they somehow are Jews because Jews run all banking.
Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:38 pm to
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Those institutions, much like all other inventions, would have been built by others.


Good grief this is an ignorant statement.

Yes they may have been built, but how different would the world have been? The architecture, the art, the inventions, the wars, the outlines of the map, the rise and fall of countries, kings, emperors...etc. These are all things that are tangibly related to the influence of Christianity. Yet there is such a vast array of human institutions I havent even begun to scratch the surface of.

For one small example, what would the world look like today if Islam never had to deal with a Christian Rome and Europe?
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:39 pm to
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Ghengis khan was generally tolerant of all religions, and did not care if his subjugants were Christian, pagan, or Buddhist. Only if they submitted to his rule or not.



True, but it's no secret that many of his conquests were the result of defending those from atrocities committed in the name of religion.


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I just have a hard time believing that people in power actually do most of what they do because of religious beliefs. I find they more often twist their religions to support their intent rather than the other way around.



Whether you believe them or not, their religious justifications would have been nonexistent without the men who started the religions they stood/hid behind.
This post was edited on 4/17/15 at 11:41 pm
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:40 pm to
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how different?

Not much.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:41 pm to
Henry VIII divorcing his wives, breaking off from the Vatican, the de Medici's warring against the Vatican, William of Orange. The list of Christianity's influence on world events goes on and on and doesn't pale in comparison to anything. Again, I'm an atheist, but Jesus influence on world events is unmatched and it's really not close if you know history.

GK had a very influential run, but it was short and not even near the enduring impact on history fwiw.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:42 pm to
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the 100 Years War,

How did Jesus cause this one?
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:42 pm to
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Ya, if they somehow are Jews because Jews run all banking.

So back to monotheism again, so Akhenaten.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:42 pm to
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Please elaborate how western culture was altered more than the Mongolian conquering of the Asian continent.


Well considering the Christian religion has been the bedrock foundation that Western Civilization has been built on for the past roughly 2000 years, I say that alone is far and away more significant than Genghis Khan and his empire that is nothing more than a footnote in history today comparatively speaking.
Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:43 pm to
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I would have to agree that Jesus was the most influential historical figure in western history. This is still overshadowed by the population and culture of Asia which far outweighs all of western civ


Must I remind you that all of Asia, at one time or another, was ruled by one of the European empires? GK was not the only one to forcibly spread his influence.

Also, I am not arguing Jesus. As I said, he was the foundation, but Paul built Christianity.

Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:45 pm to
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Not much




I was beginning to think I was truly dealing with a moron. Now I realize that I am the moron. Nice hook. I cracked a tooth I bit down so hard.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:45 pm to
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Also, I am not arguing Jesus. As I said, he was the foundation, but Paul built Christianity.


Paul would have lived and died as a regular Jewish man if not for Jesus.
Posted by Caplewood
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:46 pm to
That was quite a large amount of words to not say a single god damn thing. Nice try, as always, at an insult. You really are king dumbfrick
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:46 pm to
:kige:
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:46 pm to
GK killed a bunch of people but it's hard to say what the impact of that was. but his biggest impact was in tearing up the Muslim world. It never regained it's civility to this day.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:48 pm to
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Paul would have lived and died as a regular Jewish man if not for Jesus.


And Jesus wouldve been forgotten within a generation
Posted by SEClint
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:52 pm to
Osama bin laden.

For Americans anways, now we have all these extra laws, more paranoia and bullshite we have to deal with than ever before.
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