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Better coaching job for college basketball: Texas, Indiana, St. John's, Tenn.

Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:45 am
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:45 am
Which is the better job between Texas, Indiana, St. John's, and Tennessee? All 4 have perks...

Indiana has the most history and prestige. The Hoosiers are also the main event in town.

Texas has the money factor, but it will always play second fiddle to the Longhorn football team.

Tennessee, much like Texas, will be second to the football team.

St. John's is the lone outlier of the three as the small, private Catholic university, but they have a tremendous history and the obvious New York City recruiting advantage.
Posted by oleyeller
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:47 am to
indiana is basketball first... so i would probably go with them. Always been a basketball school.

Texas and Tenn is a toss up, texas has the money... tennessee has the support from fans. But as stated basketball is 2nd fiddle to both.

St johns- its just faded away over the years.
Posted by kbro
North Carolina, via NOLA
Member since Jan 2007
5016 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:48 am to
Definitely not St. John's or Tennessee

I'd say Indiana but Texas is a great spot as well.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 9:49 am
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50813 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:50 am to
Indiana or Texas
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42554 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:51 am to
1. Indiana
2. Texas
3. Tennessee
4. St. John's
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:52 am to
quote:

Which is the better job between Texas, Indiana, St. John's, and Tennessee? All 4 have perks...


If I am an elite coach, I would rate them in this order. Texas probably has the most in state talent and an elite coach could lock the state down. Indiana gets kids from Chicago and Nap Town but I think Texas would be more appealing. St. Johns is historically a better basketball school than Tennessee and has more talent to pull from, although an elite coach might consider going to Tennessee due to the surrounding talent in NC and ATL.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52810 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:56 am to
Much less pressure at Texas too.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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25582 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:58 am to
Texas.

Better town to live in.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60167 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:59 am to
quote:

1. Indiana 2. Texas 3. Tennessee 4. St. John's


This
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:00 am to
quote:

St johns- its just faded away over the years.



I think Boeheim/Syracuse and Jim Calhoun's UConn resurrection had a lot to do with that. Aside from the few good seasons here and there, St. John's had trouble keeping the talent in as they'd flock to Syracuse or UConn. I think the right coach at St. John's, especially given the current situation of both of those schools, can easily flip that.
Posted by GeauxAggie972
Poterbin Residence
Member since Aug 2009
29448 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:01 am to
1. Texas
2. Indiana
3. Tenn.
4. St. John's

There's always a lot of top talent in Texas. If you can start winning and secure those kids, you can be set for awhile. Barnes missed a couple years and suffered for it
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30365 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:02 am to
Texas. Less pressure, more money. You could easily win a title there too.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60167 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:07 am to
On the money part I'm pretty sure Crean's base from his 2012 extension was 3.2 and Smarts deal is worth 3 a year. As far as overall funding though Texas certainly has more money but if you win at both schools I think you would earn more at Indiana
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 10:08 am
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:08 am to
1.) Indiana - It's Indiana...they are a blue blood...I lump them with Kentucky, North Carolina, Kansas, and Duke.

2.) Texas - If you could just lockdown the talent at Houston/Dallas, you'll be fine. The pressure isn't there and the money is.

3.) Tennessee - Tennessee has great facilities. The state of Tennessee is pretty big on basketball as well (Memphis, Nashville). Although Tennessee is a football school, I've got a feeling that a real winner could have that fanbase resembling more and more of Kentucky.

4.) St. John's - I can't tell you what conference they are in. Does NYC have a real connection to the school? It's been a long time since Metta World Peace and Bootsy Thornton were running things at MSG.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:12 am to
It depends. A guy like Donovan would much rather be at Texas than Indiana. A guy like Calipari or Coach K would choose the opposite.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:24 am to
Tennessee because it doesn't take much to crack into the 3 spot consistently in the SEC.

Most Big 12 schools care about basketball at least as much as Texas. The Kansas schools, OK State, and Iowa State care more.

Indiana has to leapfrog Wisconsin, Ohio State, Michigan State, probably Michigan and Maryland to be consistently good again.

The days of metro schools in big markets like St. John's and DePaul of over. In this era of college basketball, the big city recruits know they get more exposure and glory going to Duke, Louisville and Kentucky.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10947 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:29 am to
I think, all else equal, most college coaches would still select Indiana.
Posted by AllemanWC
Bayou Corne
Member since Jan 2015
946 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:32 am to
Indiana used to be blue blood. The prestige has worn off quite a bit over the last 10-15 years. I'd rank them 2nd to Texas. Kids these days don't want tradition and prestige, they want big attention at big places with lots of resources and money.
Tennessee and St. John's are a distant 3rd and 4th.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35563 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Indiana has to leapfrog Wisconsin, Ohio State, Michigan State, probably Michigan and Maryland to be consistently good again.


This is not as difficult to do in basketball as it is in football. With the right coach Indiana becomes a top 10 team quickly.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6088 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:44 am to
St Johns is in NYC, but so is Fordham, a school with similar resources and student population. Fordham has a decent old-time tradition too, although they've never been to a final 4 (St JOhns has been to 1) and aren't in as good a league. I just don't see St Johns as anything special.
Texas has the most resources; Indiana has the most tradition. One of those 2. Tenn has Memphis and Atl nearby. Good coach can win at any of them.
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