Get full employer 401k match, max roth... then taxable acct or more 401k?

We need a general rule posted at the top of the board for this question.

401k to match
Max Roth
HSA to max if you have one
401k to Max
taxable

Of course if you're saving for a house down payment greater than 5 years that may be in a taxable account, but that's a separate issue from retirement savings order of operations

Why do people think it's beneficial to do a Roth IRA vs max 401k? One gets taxed now, one gets taxed later, mathematically it's the same yes?

I think the HSA is severely underrated. No other tax advantaged vehicle is potentially completely untaxed.

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What is the best route to go here?

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REAL ESTATE

Your 401k definitely has more fees than that. You have a sales load, trading fee, annual expense ratio. You may have a minimum total fee of 1.5%
Put more money into a tax free vehicle.
The match from a 401k will be wiped out from the taxes you take out.
Google truth concepts videos on qualified plans and let me know your thoughts.

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Why do people think it's beneficial to do a Roth IRA vs max 401k? One gets taxed now, one gets taxed later, mathematically it's the same yes?

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Generally, Roth is better when you believe tax rate today is lower than tax rate in retirement (tax rate increases in future, tax bracket/income increases, etc.). It always bothers me that this board blankets "Roth is better!" Generally, it may be true, but it's not always the case. As evidenced by the financial goals thread, there's some high earners around here. Why get taxed today at that high rate?

I agree with a Roth, but it should be a tax diversified approach. And things such as a Roth 401k are never even considered.