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Posted by islandtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:20 pm to
What is sugar busters?

quote:

www.sugarbusters.com


Basically low sugar, minimal simple carbs. I cheat once in a while, but follow it pretty closely.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:24 pm to
Pumpkin seeds, apple slices dipped in almond butter, celery and baby carrots w/ hummus, banana and pb on toast drizzled with honey, nuts, yogurt and granola are some good daily snack options.

This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 9:26 pm
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27660 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:52 pm to
Low sugar high sugar whatever

Remember since the beginning of time, it's all about calories in vs calories out

500 calories of donuts are the same as 500 calories of apples
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

500 calories of donuts are the same as 500 calories of apples


Do you really think this?
Posted by Gugich22
Who Dat Nation
Member since Jan 2006
27710 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

Posted by dallastiger55
500 calories of donuts are the same as 500 calories of apples



Sure...just based on a number of caloric intake. But what about the other nutritional values? Saturated fats, carbs, sugars, etc.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27660 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 10:06 pm to
Yes the macros are different and it will leave your body feeling two different ways

My point is as long as you hit your macros and calories, it can be made of any calorie combination you wish

People all the time do the Big Mac diet or Twinkie diet to prove that as long as you are under your calories you will lose weight

One lb is 3,500 calories


You will feel like shite and always hungry eating nothing but donuts but if you are under your maintenance you will lose weight

It's basic science
Posted by GirlD
Member since Mar 2015
19 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 10:16 pm to
quote:

Pumpkin seeds, apple slices dipped in almond butter, celery and baby carrots w/ hummus, banana and pb on toast drizzled with honey, nuts, yogurt and granola are some good daily snack options.


Great ideas I do love honey
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 10:17 pm to
so lets pretend we have 2 identical twins, they are both 5'10" 220lbs.

One eats 1,800 calories of lean meat(fish or chicken) along with 2 sides of veggies per day (lets say broccoli and green beans).


The other twin eats 1800 calories of a big mac, fries and a coke for lunch and dinner.


This happens everyday for 3 months. You think they will both will have lost the same amount of weight?

Id bet everything I owned that Twin A would be ahead, by a large margin. Food composition matters.
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
52538 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 10:19 pm to
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Id bet everything I owned that Twin A would be ahead, by a large margin. Food composition matters.



What about guar gum?
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27660 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 10:27 pm to
Like I said, as long as both met their macro needs- carbs, protein, and fat then yes they would be the same

They might feel different- energy, stamina, etc but weight will be same. Body doesn't know difference between clean and dirty foods

Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

Like I said, as long as both met their macro needs- carbs, protein, and fat then yes they would be the same




one is eating mcdonalds and one is eating lean meat and vegetables. 1800 calories worth. Just answer the question. Im not looking for disclaimers.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 10:30 pm to
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What about guar gum?



Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27660 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 10:33 pm to
It would be negligible.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 10:35 pm to
they'd lose weight at the same rate?
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 10:47 pm to
Yes they would. Calories are calories.

Their body composition would be different but their weight loss would be the same.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 10:56 pm to
wow
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 10:59 pm to
Laugh all you want but you can't argue with science.

Don't confuse weight loss with how they would look.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:05 pm to
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Laugh all you want but you can't argue with science.



Let's not confuse my argument here. Im not saying one cant lose weight eating McDonalds.

My argument is that all calories are not the same. See, they may lose weight but its not going to be as accelerated as the one eating lean meats and veggies. Your body responds differently to calories from different sources.



So what do you think happens to the sugar and carbs in the soda, fries, and hamburger buns?
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 11:09 pm
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:09 pm to
A calorie is a unit of measurement for energy. There are no such things a good or bad calories. Calories are calories.

They would be lacking in vitamins and nutrients if one only ate donuts as opposed to lean meat and veggies but if they ate the same number of calories then their weight loss would be at the same rate. Granted, one would be losing muscle mass because of the lack of protien intake and one would be losing fat but the actual weight loss would be the same.

You're confusing the macronutrients and their nutritional value with their calories.
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 11:11 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

You're confusing the macronutrients and their nutritional value with their calories.




because you are eating actual food, not just a calorie. A calorie, like you said, is just 1 unit of measure. Nutritional value of said food does matter, because all foods are different.


someone eating a healthy 1800 of no sugar /carbs vs someone eating 1800 of sugar and carbs(like french fries and soda) is not going to lose weight at the same clip.

It's really not worth arguing off. Just simply google "are all calories equal", and you'll see most health professionals disagree.
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