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re: How badly does College Basketball need a change?
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:06 pm to UltimateHog
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:06 pm to UltimateHog
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Carson I'm with you, love college hoops watch it a ton, haven't watched an NBA game in years and never will it ranks behind tennis for me.
NBA is all about catering to superstars, 1 on 1, showtime plays, etc. officiating is a joke. just cant get into it. ill watch pelicans games and big time matchups, as well as playoffs.
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:08 pm to UltimateHog
I could watch college basketball all day, not so much the nba. Whoever said eliminating the 3point shot is just ridiculous. Raising the age limit and shorter shot clock is the answer. Just look back to the 80's/90's cbb game, more upper classmen running the show.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:09 pm to Carson123987
Yeah, I can't watch it at all, haven't in years, basketball season ends with March Madness for me.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:10 pm to sassyLSU
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You do see solid all around play from mid-majors with lots of seniors, because while they do not have the size, speed or athleticism of the big5, they actually know the game by the time they are 22.
This is how the one and done rule killed the mid tier Power 5 teams. Duke and Kentucky can still bring in tons of studs to replace their leaving studs, but schools like Georgia Tech and LSU, for example, have just been devastated by the rule. They used to be able to get the occasional top prospect by selling playing time, and now they can't. They just get crushed on the recruiting trail, and their top guys STILL leave after 2 seasons.
That's why mid majors are so competitive right now. Their programs are far more sustainable than midtier Power 5 programs.
The shot clock won't really do anything. That's a cosmetic change, going from 35 to 30. It's all about the one and done rule. Any other rule change is bullshite. Go to the baseball model. Top high school kids go straight to the NBA and college players stick around for 3 years. The key is not requiring kids to go to college, otherwise the scheme is likely illegal.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:11 pm to Baloo
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Top high school kids go straight to the NBA and college players stick around for 3 years. The key is not requiring kids to go to college, otherwise the scheme is likely illegal.
yes
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:11 pm to Carson123987
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NBA is all about catering to superstars, 1 on 1, showtime plays
Someone hasn't paid attention to the NBA in like 5 years
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:13 pm to Roughneck
I watched the Wisconsin game this weekend in which they used betwee 30-34 seconds of the shot clock on four consecutive possessions and didn't score a basket. 
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:13 pm to Baloo
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schools like Georgia Tech and LSU, for example, have just been devastated by the rule. They used to be able to get the occasional top prospect by selling playing time, and now they can't.
LSU has 2 NBA prospects right now and has two top 10 players coming in next year.
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It's all about the one and done rule.
Literally the dumbest argument in sports
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:16 pm to Baloo
Agree Baloo. How does giving offenses less time against UVAs Defense a good thing? It's laughable
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:18 pm to RTR America
Please don't institute defensive 3. Would be terrible.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:18 pm to Carson123987
It's not the NBA's responsibility to improve college basketball.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:20 pm to RTR America
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LSU has 2 NBA prospects right now and has two top 10 players coming in next year.
Yes. It's an aberration. It's not sustainable. LSU's basketball program is far, far weaker than it was in the 80s/90s. We were more than just lucking into Shaq.
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Literally the dumbest argument in sports
Then it should be no problem to make a counter argument, which I see you failed to do. Let's put it like this, mid major teams were not regulars in the Final Four prior to the one and done rule. Now, they are. Why do you think that is?
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:21 pm to RTR America
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Literally the dumbest argument in sports
may have to redact my nomination for you as best MSB poster. you dont usually say dumb shite like this. at least give a counterargument
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:22 pm to RTR America
Making sophomore season earliest to leave. This will help distribute players to more schools rather than top 20 players going to either Kentucky, Duke, Kansas etc
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:23 pm to TulaneUVA
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How does giving offenses less time against UVAs Defense a good thing?
The idea that college age kids need 35 seconds to get a good shot is laughable
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:23 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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As others have said you need a 30 second shot clock
Good idea.
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Eliminate the 3 point shot.
Awful idea.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:25 pm to TheWalrus
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It's not the NBA's responsibility to improve college basketball.
But it is in their best interest. College ball is free advertising, and a free developmental league. Look at football. Players come out as recognizable brands already. The college hype machine makes incoming players more marketable for the NFL, right away.
The NBA benefits by a stronger college product in the form of better talent and more recognizable, sellable names entering the talent pool. There's no reason for the NBA to be short sighted. Fix it now before you start seeing the effects in your own league.
But college basketball also doesn't need the NBA to pass a rule regarding one and dones. They can make a commitable offer a three-year pledge, and if a player reneges, he has to pat damages to the school for breach of contract.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:26 pm to Black n Gold
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I watched the Wisconsin game this weekend in which they used betwee 30-34 seconds of the shot clock on four consecutive possessions and didn't score a basket.
That is one hell of a nitpick.
Wisconsin currently sports the highest AdjO per Pomeroy, ranks third in points/possession, and are Top 25 nationally in FG%.
Wisconsin has always had a very efficient offense (per Pomeroy) under Bo Ryan, while playing a low number of possessions. Do I enjoy it? I don't know, I don't care. Wisconsin wins at a high-rate without a squad loaded with McD AAs.
Perceive the offense how you want, but it isn't like Wisconsin wastes their possessions.
ETA: I'm all for thirty seconds on the shot clock.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:26 pm to Carson123987
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may have to redact my nomination for you as best MSB poster. you dont usually say dumb shite like this. at least give a counterargument
I've written novel length posts about it in the past. Playing FIFA right now will extrapolate later.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 8:27 pm to Baloo
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They can make a commitable offer a three-year pledge, and if a player reneges, he has to pat damages to the school for breach of contract.
Oh, that would go over well.
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