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re: Chavis felt his defense was under unnecessary strain?
Posted on 3/1/15 at 11:21 pm to ForeLSU
Posted on 3/1/15 at 11:21 pm to ForeLSU
Your looking in the rear view mirror if you think ground and pound is objective in todays perennial powerhouses. Pounding the ball when you are down more than a FG and can't score in the red zone is the big picture. (Need an example: Auburn beat ALA in every stat except the scoreboard, by a mile, and lost because they were 3 of 7 in the red zone and ALA, with 3 INTs was 5 for 5: offense). If you need a quick strike offense and your cannot complete a sideline pass, and have wasted your timeouts on check-with-me play calls, it is amazing that he was 50-50. He was not 50-50 this year, not even close. If you think come from behind is a winning strategy then check with the stat that we have been to one BCS bowl in the past 8 yrs.
Nothing will rival the inequity of having the number one SEC defense last year, with a higher scoring efficiency than than the offense, nullified by the last place offense in the FBS in November. It cannot get anymore dependent on defense than that. Miles missed the offensive revolution.
Nothing will rival the inequity of having the number one SEC defense last year, with a higher scoring efficiency than than the offense, nullified by the last place offense in the FBS in November. It cannot get anymore dependent on defense than that. Miles missed the offensive revolution.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 6:25 am
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Posted on 3/1/15 at 11:27 pm to southeasttiger113
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Yea you've really been in the "concrete" in this thread. Pretty sure you haven't make a single argument backed by statistics in this entire thread so maybe you should double check that.
yea. I kinda have been. I said LSU was the #1 defense in the conference last year. that is pretty concrete. that is a statistic, that is not my opinion.
you dismissed it.
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And the fact that you'd even compare offense to defense shows that you have no clue what you're talking about. We don't have a quarterback, dumbass. There's a much bigger margin for individual error at any position on defense than quarterback. Mathieu blows a coverage in 2011? Big deal, Peterson is there to back him up. Jennings fricks up an assignment at QB? The play is blown.
are you always this testy? or do you only resort to name calling when you are losing the argument?
EDIT: just want to point out the hilarious contradiction in your argument. LSU doesnt have a QB because the OC didnt do his job. he even admitted as much. anthony jennings was a 4* recruit. so again, does LSU only recruit talented players on the defensive side of the ball? I'll save you the trouble. no. LSU recruits highly talented players on both side of the ball. the DC that we had just so happened to be very good at coaching that talent. that is why he is so good at what he does. that is why LSU paid him the money that they did. if he is sooooooo bad, then what does that say about LSU giving him all this money the past 6 years? I guess that makes LSU a bunch of dumbasses, doesnt it?
quote:
You're clueless
did you go buy that mirror yet?
This post was edited on 3/1/15 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 3/1/15 at 11:27 pm to gene_parmesan
SEC Rant would be a good place to settle this.lmao
Posted on 3/1/15 at 11:49 pm to gene_parmesan
I dismissed it because you're so busy sucking Chavis' dick that you don't understand that his #1 conference ranking was a product of circumstance. That's not debatable. When your offense has a very high TOP it makes your total defense stat much better. When you look at yards per play and other stats that aren't boosted by the fact that our defense barely spent any time on the field you'll see that we weren't that impressive last year. You obviously don't know enough about football, coaching, schemes, or anything else to understand why you're wrong and why you've gotten downvoted 40 times in this thread so I'll just let you keep talking out of your arse and looking stupid bud
Posted on 3/1/15 at 11:57 pm to ibldprplgld
quote:I logged on tonight just so I could give you an upvote.
Ordinarily I wish former LSU coaches the best when they leave. This guy can DIAF for all I care.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:04 am to lsu2006
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I mean... Is it really that far-fetched? Yeah, we had good TOP on offense at times (which kept his D's fresh), but we didn't exactly light up the scoreboard. His defenses kept us in a number of ball games. There's really no debating that.
I feel like the offense was under some unecessary strain in that bowl game he very clearly mailed in.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:07 am to southeasttiger113
Did you really just cite "downvotes" as support of you being right and me being wrong?
Prayers sent.
Prayers sent.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:17 am to gene_parmesan
Pretty much. When the vast majority of people think you're a dumbass, you might be a dumbass. Just some food for thought
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:38 am to southeasttiger113
for fear of repeating myself (since you ignored it the first time around) if he is sooooooo bad, then what does that say about LSU giving him all this money the past 6 years? I guess that makes LSU a bunch of dumbasses like me, doesn't it?
Btw, I love how you talk about how I am clueless when it comes to football, scheming, etc, when all you have done is resorted to name calling to argue your point. not very surprising since you don't really have an argument.
Btw, I love how you talk about how I am clueless when it comes to football, scheming, etc, when all you have done is resorted to name calling to argue your point. not very surprising since you don't really have an argument.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:41 am to L S Usetheforce
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Chavis felt is defensive was under unnecessary strain?
Jezus, fix that title.
Took me two minutes just to read this one line.
Change that shite to "his defense"
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:46 am to gene_parmesan
When did I say he was "sooooooo bad"? You resort to hyperbole and making up facts to support your argument and that's a telltale sign of a complete moron. He's not "sooooo bad", he's a slightly above average coordinator that's surrounded by incredibly good assistants, a ridiculous amount of talent, and an offense that keeps his defense rested and off the field. I've been saying that since he got to LSU. His scheme is vanilla and antiquated, and he had Frank Wilson and Corey Raymond to do his recruiting for him. He needed LSU a lot more than LSU needed him and I'll let you get back to me this upcoming season if you disagree. Lining up A&M's talentless defense in man and applying no pressure to the QB isn't going to work nearly as well when he doesn't have our talent. If you disagree then bookmark this and get back to me if I'm wrong this season, but I'm not and I'd put about $5k on the fact that his defense doesn't crack the top 50 this season. Can't put it any more clearly than that
Posted on 3/2/15 at 1:11 am to southeasttiger113
You said and I quote
"There are hundreds of DCs who could do his job"
If there are hundreds of DCs who can do his job and 128 FBS programs then that must mean that he must not rank very high in your eyes. Thats not hyperbole, thats me taking your own words.
Unless of course, you were exaggerating? I mean after all, hyperbole is the telltale sign of a moron.
Your persistence in refusing to give Chavis any credit whatsoever is admirable, I'll give you that, but you have argued yourself into a corner.
In 2008 LSU tried coDCs after losing their DC from 2007. That proved to be a catastrophe. Even Chavis' worst year ('13) was still better than 2008 by any statistic you want to use. So I'd say your statement that he needed LSU more than LSU needed him is also incorrect.
I am not going to make a bet of $5000 with you for aTms defense to rise to 50 because it was 102 this year and even though Chavis is very good, hes not a miracle worker.
What I will do is make a bet for $100 that aTm improves in the following categories
Pts allowed
3rd down conversion
Turnovers
Thats a pretty good deal for you if you ask me, since Chavis is only slightly above average.
"There are hundreds of DCs who could do his job"
If there are hundreds of DCs who can do his job and 128 FBS programs then that must mean that he must not rank very high in your eyes. Thats not hyperbole, thats me taking your own words.
Unless of course, you were exaggerating? I mean after all, hyperbole is the telltale sign of a moron.
Your persistence in refusing to give Chavis any credit whatsoever is admirable, I'll give you that, but you have argued yourself into a corner.
In 2008 LSU tried coDCs after losing their DC from 2007. That proved to be a catastrophe. Even Chavis' worst year ('13) was still better than 2008 by any statistic you want to use. So I'd say your statement that he needed LSU more than LSU needed him is also incorrect.
I am not going to make a bet of $5000 with you for aTms defense to rise to 50 because it was 102 this year and even though Chavis is very good, hes not a miracle worker.
What I will do is make a bet for $100 that aTm improves in the following categories
Pts allowed
3rd down conversion
Turnovers
Thats a pretty good deal for you if you ask me, since Chavis is only slightly above average.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 1:13 am
Posted on 3/2/15 at 1:27 am to gene_parmesan
Again, your reading comprehension is among the worst I've ever seen in my ~5 years of reading TD daily. When did I ever say that I was only using current d1 defensive coordinators in that figure? But regardless, not sure if you're Chavis' relative or what but your love affair with him is a joke. As I said just wait and see how good A&M makes him look but, feel free to bookmark this and get back to me
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:04 am to lsu2006
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I don't see what's so hard to grasp here:
More points on offense = less pressure on defense
Less points on offense = more pressure on defense
wow
we have some dumbass fans wow
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:09 am to danfraz
What's so horribly wrong about what I said?
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:12 am to L S Usetheforce
So chavis was looking for a place to get lazy and make some extra coin before retirement....dudes gotta be pissed he has to pay 400k
Sorry we expect the defense to do its job chavis. He actually was the sacred Coe not unnecessary strain due to the offense but I'm glad he at least admits to wanting to be lazy
Sorry we expect the defense to do its job chavis. He actually was the sacred Coe not unnecessary strain due to the offense but I'm glad he at least admits to wanting to be lazy
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:17 am to L S Usetheforce
Now be honest...how many on here were on the edge of their seats during the last possession of the opponent while the Tigers led by less than a touchdown? How many "last minute" interceptions or forced fumbles saved games? Everyone knew that a Chavis defense in a close game relies on a lot of luck to prevent a score.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:22 am to lsu2006
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His defenses kept us in a number of ball games. There's really no debating that.
but it also cost LSU several games. the offense was horrible last year, but the defense (under chavis) wasn't always lighting the world on fire.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:30 am to L S Usetheforce
The problem with these articles are they aren't direct quotes. They simply could just be made up.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:32 am to L S Usetheforce
If we would have had a D LINE Mett's senior year, it would have made the 2011 team look bad.
Chavis and Brick did not recruit one 1st round pick on the D line since they got there. The ones that made Chavis look good were already in place.
Glad he's gone.
Chavis and Brick did not recruit one 1st round pick on the D line since they got there. The ones that made Chavis look good were already in place.
Glad he's gone.
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