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re: Everyone- Stop being so critical of Coach Jones
Posted on 2/18/15 at 12:44 pm to lsu2006
Posted on 2/18/15 at 12:44 pm to lsu2006
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Most of you people have never coached anyone in your entire lives.
I have coached you sanctimonious POS and while Im certainly not the greatest BB coach in the world, I do have a basic understanding of how to use timeouts to set plays, break the momentum of the other team, or simply tell my guys to slow down and get their heads out of their azzes.
Its actually NOT brain surgery.
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 12:50 pm to ezrulz
From the Advocate"
"For a while now, a thought has been crossing my mind: LSU simply isn't as talented as a lot of folks thought - and certainly not head-and-shoulders more talented than most teams the Tigers face.
And when I say 'we,' that includes me when it pertains to the pre-season evaluation of the talent of this LSU team. I was wrong and I think a lot of others were and continue to be when they insist the Tigers are more talented than most other teams."
"For a while now, a thought has been crossing my mind: LSU simply isn't as talented as a lot of folks thought - and certainly not head-and-shoulders more talented than most teams the Tigers face.
And when I say 'we,' that includes me when it pertains to the pre-season evaluation of the talent of this LSU team. I was wrong and I think a lot of others were and continue to be when they insist the Tigers are more talented than most other teams."
Posted on 2/18/15 at 12:50 pm to mglsu21
We can all criticise his use of timeouts as much or more than any coach. That's about style of coaching more than anything though. If anything we can say that Coach Jones has done a poorjob of adapting to his personnel. But one key thing that most people don't realize is that the strength of this team is getting out on the break and scoring in the open floor. We don't have the players to do that consistently yet but when we're at our best that is what we do. Calling timeouts during a run is not going to necessarily benefit us unless we're tired. We're not a good half court team right now and that's due to personnel.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 12:52 pm to RedTigerRulz
That's why I said MOST and it was only an observation. Calm down.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 12:55 pm to ezrulz
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Calling timeouts during a run is not going to necessarily benefit us unless we're tired
So much LOL.
Stopping the opponent's momentum while settling down the offense to get the ball inside for a good shot instead of shooting a wild 3 is not a benefit?
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:02 pm to Minnesota Tigah
Agreed. But no coach is winning without players. Trent is a helluva coach with hardware to prove it but only two or three nba players to his credit and five wins in two years. Point being that you can get run out of college basketball if you're not doing your job. Like him or not, Coach Jones IS doing his job.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:08 pm to mglsu21
Not necessarily if we don't get it inside for the score. Read the entire post. The question is will that timeout benefit us more late when the game is on the line. We're not a great defensive team and there are only five timeouts in a game. You have to play to your strengths, but this is a debate that can go on forever.
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:09 pm to ezrulz
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The question is will that timeout benefit us more late when the game is on the line. We're not a great defensive team and there are only five timeouts in a game.
We had 4 TOs left at the time of the 12-0 run. We had 2 unused at the end of the game.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:11 pm to ezrulz
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It is asinine to be so damn critical of the coach that has been a part the most successful runs in our program's history.
WTF do you call a successful run? I think he's a great recruiter but a sub-par coach. I'm not throwing him under the bus yet though. Gonna give him one more year to see what he can do with all this talent he's bringing in before I really start hatin' on him.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:12 pm to massiveattack
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How many future nba players need to be on a roster for it to qualify as a good team in your opinion? 3 last year? 2-3 this year? 2-3 next year?
Maybe they are not NBA players. They maybe end of the bench guys, who last three years in the league and disappear.
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:17 pm to whoisnickdoobs
You don't know the history of LSU basketball if you don't know what I mean about successful run. I honestly don't believe people would be this critical if we hadn't played UK close and if we had beaten UT in a close game instead of blowing them out. This team has lacked consistency all year. You can't just blame the coach. If it happens next year, then we may have a problem.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:21 pm to ezrulz
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It is asinine to be so damn critical of the coach that has been a part the most successful runs in our program's history.
I don't think anyone is criticizing his role as a point guard, assistant coach under Dale Brown or his ability to recruit. We are pointing out the obvious, we have the second most talented team in the conference and we staring down a 6th place finish in the league and an NIT appearance. That's fair criticism. Also, it's not guys struggling under pressure, it is players playing lazy and without focus. Giving up that many offensive rebounds is simply not blocking out.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:26 pm to ellessuuuu
Florida is more talented than we are. Arkansas is more talented. A&M is more talented, imo. Georgia is about even. Look at the rosters. And if you're gonna use defensive rebounding as a measuring stick then Frank Martin is the best coach in the league. How's his team doing?
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:28 pm to ezrulz
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We are about to be a big time program.
If Mickey and Martin both go pro, you still call us big time in the future? LOL. Though we all know they are not ready for the NBA, they will still try & go anyway after this year's NIT run.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:29 pm to MaGoo
All I know is I don't miss Trent
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:36 pm to MaGoo
Do we really know that? Maybe if they read the rant they will. I could see them believing that Coach Jones is the worst coach in D-1 basketball and he's the only reason we didn't with 40 games and they aren't going lottery. SMDH. JOB came back for his Junior year and I see absolutely no reason why M&M shouldn't do the exact same thing.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:38 pm to ezrulz
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Florida is more talented than we are. Arkansas is more talented. A&M is more talented, imo. Georgia is about even.
House is less talented than M&M and Hornsby and TQ are every bit as good as Caruso, probably better. Roberson is solid... who else?
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:43 pm to LSUButt
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alipari let LSU go on a 16-0 run and didn't call a timeout. Coaches use their timeouts differently.
I agree with you to some extent - different coaches do indeed use timeouts differently based on their team's emotional makeup and the particular game situation.
However, I'm inclined to give Calipari a pass on his in-game tactics against LSU since, well, you know, HIS TEAM IS UNDEFEATED THIS YEAR.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:45 pm to ezrulz
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nd now he's bringing in the#1 player in the country and heir apparent to LeBron
And people will want to see IMMEDIATE results and aside from Chris Jackson and Shaq, no freshman has lived up to the hype -- not even Swift nor Bass nor G. Davis. I am speaking on the want of IMMEDIATE game-changing results. Simmons will average 12-15 ppg next season and that will greatly be unappreciated by the masses of "fans" who want 25 ppg and 12 rpg...hell, mix in 8-9 assists a game.
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he impact of those guys on our program will be staggering and college basketball nation is already preparing for it
Too bad JM will leave, ill-advised and possibly even Martin. If both do leave then I highly doubt the nation will be staggered by Hornsby, Quarterman, Gray, Simmons, and Malone as the November starting 5.
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struggling with the pressure of expectations changing and a bunch of role players who are required to produce consistently at a high level which they are clearly not ready to do
If you are speaking on behalf of Grey, he's not a role player. He was asked/demanded to be the starting point guard and score in double-figures. He was asked to be better than Hickey. Quarterman is the only role player who averages quality minutes and he's over-produced what we thought he would. Who is not ready as a "role player"? Malone? His role is to stand tall and get lucky every once in a while.
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ou can blame the coach for giving Malone, Odo and Robinson the opportunity to play at LSU in lieu of guys with less upside but more prepared to contribute, but it was a pick your poison type of situation
Odo has been on the team long enough to now develop. He clearly has not and is one of the worst bigs we have had since Tuba Player. I will blame Coach Jones for wasting our time with what is essentially three 7 footers who collect dust on the bench. "Picking a poison" is embracing or accepting excuses. You coach them up or you do not, but it's no wonder the turnover rate is as bad as it was when Brady was here. A lot of that is on TJ as well, but JJ has had three years. Robinson, to not even get into an SEC game, must be getting GREAT coaching, eh? He'll likely transfer.
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We will always be a fun team to watch and attract nba talent because Coach Jones will not overcoach his teams
That has been our M.O. since 1990. Jones may want to reevaluate going after "NBA talent" and start building a team.
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He has a better record than our previous coach who was c.o.t.y. in two different conferences.
New Jersey Tech's head coach has a better record in conference than his predecessor. Trent Johnson was terrible and you know it. That's not a difficult feat for JJ to pull off, when it comes to "winning more games."
I hate to say it, but Brady was the best COACH of the game we have had during the four coach era.
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:51 pm to RedTigerRulz
You need to learn to respond to the right person.
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