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re: Reasons for Optimism in 2015 (Not for the Faint of Heart)

Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:51 am to
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:51 am to
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Whether you stand with the majority who want Harris, the ultra-talented sophomore whose drawback includes having played organized football for only 3 years, or with the minority who want Jennings, the physically limited film junkie who exclusively corners the market with game experience, improvement from the position is all but guaranteed


I know you're a big Jennings guy, and you're right in that most QB's don't develop until year 3. The problem is, Jennings is the only LSU QB I've seen in awhile that, to this point in their career, has had ZERO signature moments, save for one drive against Arkansas. All the other QB's you mention-Lee, Jefferson, and Mett, all had at least one full game before their junior year where they really shined and looked promising. Lee had Auburn '08, Jefferson the Peach Bowl, Mett the '12 Bama game. Jennings hasn't come close to that kind of performance. And the physical limitations you mention are really showing. The arm strength just isn't there. Three years is enough time to learn the game of football and I think, and hope, Harris is the guy. Good post, though.

ETA: I know Mett was a junior in '12, so we'll just call it their "third" year.
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 9:43 am
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:43 am to
Posted by countryboy2
Zimbabwe
Member since Jan 2009
1474 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:27 am to
I am a Miles guy but so obvious that he has failed with QB recruiting and development. How can you say otherwise?
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:39 am to
uummmmm lets not start breaking out the champagne just yet. I applaud your enthusiasm but if we get QB play like we had last year, 8-5 is a definite possibility again.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 11:48 am to
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I especially like Jamal Adams in this regard.


Amen. If Dwayne Thomas comes back to full health like we're hearing we could see he or Adams bird-dogging the opposing QB's on virtually every play. This defensive backfield could well rival the greatest Tiger DB's of all time, including the '03, '07, '10 and '11 teams.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:03 pm to
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I know you're a big Jennings guy, and you're right in that most QB's don't develop until year 3. 


I'm not a Jennings guy, I just don't believe in throwing in the towel on a guy before he's run the full course of his development. Imagine 2011 if we had given up on Jarrett Lee.

If Jennings shows nothing in 2015 then I'm all in for Harris.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 1:30 pm to
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He didn't coach ANY of those QBs in college, as his career has largely been confined to the NFL.

My error, I stand corrected.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17711 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 2:24 pm to
Honest question-If Jennings starts and goes most of the way against McNeese and goes 8-20/114 yds/1 TD/1 Int would you have confidence in him against Moo State the next week, regardless of how the rest of the team did?
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 2:30 pm to
Without knowing the number of dropped and/or batted passes or the number of passes that were thrown away due to pressure or coverage, no, I would not have confidence in him heading into our first conference game.

That said, I wouldn't lose my shite if he was named the stater, either. MSST has lost much of their defensive two-deep rom last year, so, I'd be willing to let him play.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

Honest question-If Jennings starts and goes most of the way against McNeese and goes 8-20/114 yds/1 TD/1 Int would you have confidence in him against Moo State the next week, regardless of how the rest of the team did?


The war drums would definitely be beating. I would not want him starting at Moo State. Just the fact that he started against McNeese would speak volumes about where we stand with our QBs.
Posted by gene_parmesan
Member since Jan 2014
247 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 3:03 pm to
Jennings is starting. Prepare accordingly.
Posted by ORTIGER
Oregon
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 4:48 pm to
Saving my money for NC game!!
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:53 pm to
GEAUX Tigers!!!
Posted by gene_parmesan
Member since Jan 2014
247 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:53 pm to
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Saving my money for NC game!!


::pinches cheek::

you're adorable.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 12:08 am to
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Reasons for Optimism in 2015


You could have saved some space and listed the only REAL reason for optimism in 2015. We're one year closer to getting a new coach.
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5986 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 12:35 am to
I see 5 main reasons to be excited for 2015.
1. Returning Players. We weren't decimated by early departures, and return the vast majority of starters.(I think it's like 15 of 22).
2. The DL. Coach O (+ Valentine and perhaps Arden Key) will vastly improve our pass rush and sack count
3. QB issue. Harris accounted for 2 less touchdowns than Jennings in about 90 percent less time. If Harris overcomes whatever the coaches think is holding him back (or the coaches wake the f up and realize he's our best chance at winning) then the QB situation is not going to be an issue.
4. Skill positions. Our worst WR was a true freshman who broke every all-time receiving record in the country. Our two deep at RB will make Ingram/Lacey look like scrubs. Donte Jackson could be a huge lift at punt returns and the ever popular "jet sweep".
5. The SEC. Of the 4 teams that beat us last year (that we will play again) - 3 are replacing Qbs. 1 is replacing almost everyone else.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4855 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

Dillon Gordon




I'm glad you mentioned Big Dillon!

He is so often overlooked.
Posted by panzer
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
4033 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:38 pm to
What an awesome effort. Thanks Chilge1, this is the best post in ten years that I have been on this board.

The level of depth and research and time and effort is truly remarkable. I commend you.

Panzer
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:58 pm to
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You could have saved some space and listed the only REAL reason for optimism in 2015. We're one year closer to getting a new coach.


Why would you want to fire a coach that has finished in the top 15, seven out of ten years?
I hate our ignorant and entitled fan base.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:20 am to
Bump because tRant has been unreadable as of late.
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