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Posted on 2/15/15 at 9:16 pm to moock blackjack
quote:
Not one player on that list is worth his cap hit. Like the comment cut or trade them all and let's start over!!!!!
Posted on 2/15/15 at 9:19 pm to TigerBait1127
So funny then who is worth there contract on that list!!!!!
Posted on 2/15/15 at 9:21 pm to moock blackjack
That's why we are in the position we are in now---- bad overpaid contracts!!!
Posted on 2/15/15 at 9:34 pm to moock blackjack
No player on this team is worth 10% of the salary cap and that includes Drew. I know what market value is and he is making what that dictates. Its way too much, but he isn't the only QB making too much either.
This post was edited on 2/15/15 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:12 am to LSUSkip
Brees isn't overpaid. He's making right about what he deserves. Somebody else will pay him the same money if we let him go and we'll suck arse for at least 2 years after losing him. It is what it is. The smart thing to do is just accept it.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:15 am to BTRDD
Jahri Evans, Hawthorne, and Bunkley need to go. The money they get for their production is laughable. Bunkley did ok against the run, but he isn't worth it. While Humber wasn't great last year...he wasn't much worse than Hawthorne and he makes much less money. Hopefully we can convince Colston, Grubbs, and Lofton to take a little paycut.
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 5:21 am
Posted on 2/16/15 at 1:33 pm to GMoney2600
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GMoney2600
Thank you for some sense in this thread
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:02 pm to BTRDD
quote:Are you fricking kidding?
Junior Galette $15,450,000
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:10 pm to The Sad Banana
Duh. Have you seen his lumberjack beard?
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:12 pm to The Sad Banana
This thread is troll headquarters. People act like Brees should still take 10 million a year.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:37 pm to moock blackjack
quote:
So funny then who is worth there contract on that list!!!!!
Their contract or cap hit?
Junior is easily worth his contract
Cam has lived up to his rookie contract.
Brees is worth $20 million
Lofton is worth his contract.
Bunk has been worth his contract
We'll see about byrd
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:15 pm to The Sad Banana
quote:
Are you fricking kidding?
That's the going rate for 10+ sacks a year for a 26 year old
Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:37 pm to The Sad Banana
quote:
Are you fricking kidding?
thats the 2015 cap hit with a HUGE roster bonus (12.5mil)
Look at his '16-'19 cap hits:
5.8mil
6.5mil
8.2mil
8.4mil
this thread is bad and a large overreaction. Cap hit =/= avg salary
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 2/16/15 at 8:22 pm to htran90
The other issue is that $10 million of Junior's $15 million will be spread out over those years and he will only count for about $5 million this year (with $2.5 million being added to each of the remaining years).
Same thing with Byrd and Jimmy and possibly Lofton, but their shifts won't be nearly as big.
Same thing with Byrd and Jimmy and possibly Lofton, but their shifts won't be nearly as big.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 8:34 pm to BTRDD
LOL lets revisit this thread post Brees and see how bad things can really get.
Youth movement does not always = Getting better.
Last year we had gotten rid of a lot of overpaid vets and you see how that went. Just imagine what happens when you try and push out Brees, Graham, and all these other "overrated/overpaid" guys some of you claim them to be.
You can bitch all you want about the Brees contract, but the fact of the matter is its a borderline steal given what these guys are making now. Guys like Cutler, Kapernick, and Dalton are getting paid ridiculous money and don't even equal a quarter of Brees production.
Youth movement does not always = Getting better.
Last year we had gotten rid of a lot of overpaid vets and you see how that went. Just imagine what happens when you try and push out Brees, Graham, and all these other "overrated/overpaid" guys some of you claim them to be.
You can bitch all you want about the Brees contract, but the fact of the matter is its a borderline steal given what these guys are making now. Guys like Cutler, Kapernick, and Dalton are getting paid ridiculous money and don't even equal a quarter of Brees production.
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:06 pm to BTRDD
we aint getting much bang for our buck, that is for sure.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:39 am to BTRDD
quote:
Drew Brees $26,400,000
Junior Galette $15,450,000
Jimmy Graham $11,000,000
Jahri Evans $11,000,000
Jairus Byrd $10,300,000
Marques Colston $9,700,000
Ben Grubbs $9,600,000
Curtis Lofton $9,250,000
Cameron Jordan $6,969,000
Brodrick Bunkley $6,112,500
David Hawthorne $6,010,000
Drew-Stays, with a little protection in the middle and a #1WR and his production jumps back up
Jr-Stays, still not yet in his prime, he could be humbled a bit more though
Jimmy-stays, he's tough to keep playing while injured but yet he does seem to be injured quite often and he would get that money else where
Jahri-cut, sorry Jahri but the last 2 years your production has gone down and your price has gone up
Byrd-stays obviously, can't wait to see him healthy and hopefully Ryan & Dennis Allen can maximize his abilities and Vaccaro's potential
Colston-cut, or shred his contract up and have him take a pay cut to about half of what he is making now...I love Colston as much as any Saints fan, but he is not a #1WR anymore and that's what this team has been missing the last 2 years
Grubbs-cut, has not earned his contract since he signed here
Lofton, stays
Jordan- stays obviously
Bunkley- cut, should never have been given that big of a contract
Hawthorned- cut, should have never been given that big of a contract
Cutting Evans saves $6m
Cutting Grubbs saves $3.6M
Cutting Bunkley saves $2.9M
Cutting Hawthorne saves $3M
That's $15.5M right there, and then see what can be done with Colston's contract, or possibly cut him and save $4.3M
Honestly if you take their names away and just look at their production, stats, and PFF scores then it would be an easy decision to cut Evans, Grubbs, Bunkley and Hawthorne without thinking twice....And looking at their production, it really wouldn't be very hard to match that production through a decent draft and much much cheaper free agents.......The real question is Colston...He's still producing sure, but he's not beating the defense's best CB anymore, he's not being a true #1WR anymore, so it all depends on if he would be willing to take a pay cut, which I hope he does
Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:07 am to BTRDD
Drew Brees $26,400,000 - yes
Junior Galette $15,450,000 - yes
Jimmy Graham $11,000,000 - no
Jahri Evans $11,000,000 - possibly
Jairus Byrd $10,300,000 - possibly
Marques Colston $9,700,000 - no
Ben Grubbs $9,600,000 - yes
Curtis Lofton $9,250,000 - yes
Cameron Jordan $6,969,000 - yes
Brodrick Bunkley $6,112,500 - yes
David Hawthorne $6,010,000 - no
If we add a center who is slightly above average, which we haven't had in 4 years, and a star possession receiver, we'd be the best in the league again.
Junior Galette $15,450,000 - yes
Jimmy Graham $11,000,000 - no
Jahri Evans $11,000,000 - possibly
Jairus Byrd $10,300,000 - possibly
Marques Colston $9,700,000 - no
Ben Grubbs $9,600,000 - yes
Curtis Lofton $9,250,000 - yes
Cameron Jordan $6,969,000 - yes
Brodrick Bunkley $6,112,500 - yes
David Hawthorne $6,010,000 - no
If we add a center who is slightly above average, which we haven't had in 4 years, and a star possession receiver, we'd be the best in the league again.
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 8:10 am
Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:40 am to htran90
quote:I see...but that's still too much for Gallette IMO.
thats the 2015 cap hit with a HUGE roster bonus (12.5mil)
Look at his '16-'19 cap hits:
5.8mil
6.5mil
8.2mil
8.4mil
this thread is bad and a large overreaction. Cap hit =/= avg salary
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