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Posted on 2/10/15 at 4:55 pm
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18385 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 4:55 pm
TL;DR at bottom

You may or may not remember, but I had an issue with my lender claiming I have an escrow shortage.

Turns out, I do have one legitimately because of the way things are done.

So I'm still not totally convinced of the explanation I was given as the call with Chase was "lost" (which never happens to me with my phone).

But from what I understand, I was paying $1189/year for property insurance in 2013 and 2014. When I switched my property to a rental dwelling, my property insurance changed from $1189/year to $1774/year.

Because of this, there was a shortage not only with the insurance payments but also from the minimum balance Chase requires to have in the bank at all times, which is $433. So I have to make up for the $433 and some other shortage that I'm not seeing.

So somehow because of the way the schedule of payments fall, I'm going to have a shortage of $910 causing my monthly payments to go up by $75/month. But really, with the raise in insurance plus the shortage, my payments are going up $140/month.

I still don't fricking understand how this is possible. I was TOLD by my insurance agent that my property insurance would probably "go down" as I was insuring less in the house by removing my personal belongings. Turns out, he was wrong. My insurance went up as a result of the property being switched to a rental dwelling.

That's fine. I get that.

I don't know what to do though about this shortage.

To be honest, we moved and rented out our house because I had a career opportunity and we couldn't sell our house.

Our mortgage payment was $1130/month when we were moving. I asked for $1300/month, which was competitive for the area. Maybe even on the higher end. I offered to cover lawn service (had a guy I knew that did good work for $75/month. My tenant offered to do the lawn service himself for a $50 decrease.

So I'm renting my house out for $1250, and my mortgage payment is going to rise from $1130 to $1290.

That's a $40 deficit, and I'm a graduate student with a year left until I finish.

There's more if I'm able to vent here.

I decided to go to graduate school and I had $11k in the bank for savings. Everything was more expensive than I thought. Everything.

Because I was quitting a job, I moved $3k into a Roth IRA to start saving for retirement. That left me with $8k.

The movers cost more than I wanted them to. Switching utility services cost more than I wanted to. The security deposit for the house I am renting was fine, but it was still a $1k. The fees and other shite that hit me up front for going to graduate school was more than I wanted them to be. The only decent daycare in this area that we could find is about $700/month or $100 more than the one we were using before. Oh and car insurance is up because less people here are insured than where we were before.

And I'm out of savings. Outside of the security deposit, which hopefully I will get back in July of 2016 when I move out and the $3200 in my Roth IRA, I have no extra money.

Guess I'm fricked. Already living on a super tight budget so we could go on this "adventure." So I could pursue a new career.

Oh and we came here with $800 in credit card debt with 11 months left with no APR. Now because of the budget cut, we still have $600 on that card and are approaching the end of the deal of no APR. The second credit card we have for groceries and necessities that was SUPPOSED to be paid off each month is no longer being paid off each month. It now has $900 on it and the interest is going to kick my arse.

Really, this mostly stems from my (now former) insurance agent telling me that my insurance would go down and me not doing my homework.

Any suggestions?

TL;DR - Decided to pursue graduate school to hopefully go into a new career in 2016. It's cost a frickload more than I expected. My rental house is getting a $140/month increase unexpectedly starting in March. I'm out of savings and because of the month-to-month budget, I have no room to pay an extra $140/month.
This post was edited on 2/10/15 at 5:01 pm
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 5:02 pm to
Find new insurance.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18385 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

Find new insurance.


I've called three companies and none of them would talk to me because it's not my primary dwelling. Any suggestions to whom I should call?
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 5:11 pm to
I had republic and they don't do rentals, so when we moved and rented I think we went with MetLife.

Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 5:55 pm to
Forget the house....chalk that up to a life lesson with the agent: trust but verify when someone selling something to you doesn't provide a detailed quote.

The credit card debt is a bigger problem IMHO. Get rid of it ASAP. Have a garage sale, list all the crap you don't use on eBay, send the outgrown kids clothes to a consignment store....liquidate your personal property. Take books to the used bookstore. Generate as much cash as you can to pay off that interest gathering CC. Then spend some serious time figuring out what you bought to run up that debt. It's not all groceries...I'll bet. If it was, do some serious meal planning and food budgeting.

Cancel the cable and high speed internet, get a cheaper cell phone or go prepaid.
Posted by Creamer
louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
2817 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 6:00 pm to
Call an insurance broker that will do the shopping for you.any good broker will have a couple of rental insurance companies.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18385 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

Forget the house....chalk that up to a life lesson with the agent: trust but verify when someone selling something to you doesn't provide a detailed quote.

The credit card debt is a bigger problem IMHO. Get rid of it ASAP. Have a garage sale, list all the crap you don't use on eBay, send the outgrown kids clothes to a consignment store....liquidate your personal property. Take books to the used bookstore. Generate as much cash as you can to pay off that interest gathering CC. Then spend some serious time figuring out what you bought to run up that debt. It's not all groceries...I'll bet. If it was, do some serious meal planning and food budgeting.

Cancel the cable and high speed internet, get a cheaper cell phone or go prepaid.


Kinda hard to forget the house when it's my #1 budget killer. At least my minimum payment on the CC is $18/month if I need it to be.

Honestly, we've tried to be smart about our budget. My parents wanted us to keep our smartphones (which we were going to give up) because they wanted to be able to face-time with our son. They're paying our cell phone bill.

I have a $58/month bill with DirecTV that is every channel possible except for movie channels. I've run roughshod over them in terms of negotiating. I WOULD get rid of it. But I have 18 months left on the contract. That would be a $360 bill to cancel. Can't do it.

Internet is $39/month.

And you're right. It wasn't all groceries. It was Christmas. Not $900 worth of Christmas, but Christmas was just enough to really put a hurting on our budget.

We're spending $900/month on groceries. I know we can get that down. I know we can. But when I start thinking about us getting it down to $600 or $700, I just see that as us breaking even. It's not going to cover the excess expenses. It's just going to meet our new budget.

Not to mention, my fellowship doesn't cover fees and books. I got 2/3 of this semester's books at the library for free. The 1/3 leftover? $145. Textbooks are out of control. It wasn't hurting us because the revenue from the rental property was adding up to pay for it all. But I need about $600 per semester.

There's also a big ugly gorilla staring me in the face. My stipend doesn't pay in June, July, or half of August. That's going to be a $1200/month pay cut over the summer.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 6:34 pm to
So get a part time job. Or have your spouse get a part time job. Slash the budget to the bone.....that high speed internet is free at the public library (and on campus). $50/mo is a start.....
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166246 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 6:50 pm to
Pay attention to what he hell is going on w your insurance policy, you need a dwelling policy. Shop it w an ind agent and ask to see the company quotes, you can probably get at least 5 quotes.

Just cause you have a 430 shortage doesn't mean they only make up for 430. They are making up for current year plus future year plus their cushion.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37088 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 7:09 pm to
Your insurance went up $585 a year. Something else is hitting your escrow. What about property tax? Did you lose homestead exemption and property tax is increasing?
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18385 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

Your insurance went up $585 a year. Something else is hitting your escrow. What about property tax? Did you lose homestead exemption and property tax is increasing?


It's what Chadboy said. They want their cushion of $433 in the bank. Because of when they're going to pay the insurance, it's going to run a deficit of almost $500 because it'll already be at zero (I think technically less than zero) and they'll be taking out the $433 pretty much twice to get the cushion plus the shortage. Hence me owing $900+ dollars.

This shouldn't be allowed if you ask me, and if it is allowed, it should always be spelled out in clear letters. My fault for not insisting, but I called an insurance agent as a novice asking if this move would be good for my family. I wanted to know if we could afford it, and getting the house rented out - financially sound mind you - was in the top three of the list. Instead of saying, "Well here are the numbers," he said, "Nah, nah. You'll be insuring less because your personal property is moving, so you'll just pay renter's insurance for that." Then he shot the shite with me about football.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17258 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 7:41 pm to
How long of a lease did you sign with your tenant?

You need to sell that house, with a budget as tight as yours you can not afford to be a landlord, one major repair or or tenant being late on rent puts you in a serious bind

Sounds like you have a good handle on your expenses, there is always more you can cut and looks like you are doing that

Income, sounds like you need more of it, you your wife or both need to look at part time jobs, picking up extra hours, side jobs, anything to turn a dollar
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65667 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 8:11 pm to
If you have a reasonably reliable car, Über is You-ber. Or delivering pizzas. Etc.

Part time employment especially for Ca$h money.

Write down every cash obligation and disbursement and carefully weigh them all.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

You need to sell that house, with a budget as tight as yours you can not afford to be a landlord, one major repair or or tenant being late on rent puts you in a serious bind


Definitely something to think about, but it can be dangerous too. If you're desperate to sell it could cost too much to do this.

Since you're only in grad school for another year maybe it is indeed just a matter of taking a bartending job or some such. You might be able to bring in extra money tutoring as well, when I was in grad school I did that plus refereed softball games to make ends meet. The best job I had was as a night security guard, I got paid to study all night. The only catch was that morning classes were a bitch.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37088 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 9:55 pm to
Your coats went up by 585. No reason for the shortage to be higher unless something else happened.

If your allow low point is 433 then your actual should have been 433-585 which is like 155. To get back to 433 you need to pay back the 585. Which is 50 per year. Then they need another 50 per year for next year.

Either your escrow went lower - meaning something else is more expensive - or they raised your minimum.
Posted by eelsuee
2B+!2B
Member since Oct 2004
4503 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:41 pm to
Any reason you can't get student loans? It sucks having to pay them back, but it may be your easiest path to graduating and getting the better paying job.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 2/11/15 at 12:31 am to
How much did you pay the "movers?" I have always moved myself and bought mucho beer for my help.

Wife working?

Does your wife sound sexy? Lots of lonely guys on the OT board. Easy money.
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