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re: Why didn't we rest Jimmy Graham when injured?

Posted on 2/3/15 at 6:35 am to
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 6:35 am to
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Really how many stats from the NFL that are facts do I have to type??


Well at the time of your 1st mention of facts, you had posted a total of 0. You're moving in the right direction now. We might teach you how to debate in time.

quote:

So sacks and hits don't matter but pressures do?? So drew is rattled by pressure not hits and sacks????



Sacks and hits are a part of the pressure statistics. Brees has always had a low sack % when pressured. He is very, very good at making moves to buy time. Getting rushed and having time to throw tends to bring down interceptions though.

1. He finished 5th in # of pressures
2. He finished 22nd in sack %, which speaks to Brees
3. He finished 4th in Hits At Throw with 9

Team Pressures
2014 - 223 Pressures;
-20 Sacks
-44 Hits
-159 Hurries

2013 - 205 Pressures;
-35 Sacks
-34 Hits
-136 Hurries

2012 - 196 Pressures;
-24 Sacks
-37 Hits
-135 Hurries

2011 - 180 Pressures;
-21 Sacks
-17 Hits
-142 Hurries

2010 - 212 Pressures;
-28 Sacks
-33 Hits
-151 Hurries

2009 - 149 Pressures;
-19 Sacks
-31 Hits
-99 Hurries

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Last year Jimmy had 124 targets with a drop percentage of 6.5%. Which is the highest in the league with +/- 10 targets within graham.



1. I don't think anyone would say that Graham had a Graham season last year.

2. He actually had a drop rateee of 8.60%

quote:

Which is the highest in the league with +/- 10 targets within graham.




1. Pretty selective statistic. Nice to see that you're finally using one though.

2. It is wrong.
--Graham had 121 targets with a drop rate of 8.60%. --Steve Smith 130 targets, 9.20%.
--Julian Edelman - 124 targets, 10.68%
--Calvin Johnson - 124 targets, 8.97%
--Roddy White - 122 Targets 11.11%
--Anquan Boldin - 121 targets - 10.75%

3. There were 3 TE's within 10 targets: Bennett, Gronk, and Olsen. They had drop rates of 8.16, 7.87, and 3.45. Bennett had 8, Gronk had 7, Graham had 8, and Olsen had 3.

He finished with an 8.60 drop rate, while had a phenomenal 2.99 going into week 13 until the Carolina game, which was the worst game in his career IMO.

Graham
2014 - 8.60 (hurt shoulder)
2013 - 6.52
2012 - 15 (hurt wrist)
2011 - 5.77
2010 - 8.82

Gronk
2014 - 7.87
2013 - 4.88
2012 - 11.29
2011 - 8.16
2010 - 6.67

Calvin Johnson
2014 - 8.97
2013 - 10.64
2012 - 10.29
2011 - 6.80
2010 - 7.23

AJ Green
2014 - 5.48
2013 - 10.09
2012 - 9.35
2011 - 7.14



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Here another. Graham ranks 25th in the league in fumbles by non qb position. So he drops the ball more than anyone in comparison and if he catches it he's in the top 1 percent of ball handlers in fumbles. Man sure doesn't sound soft to me.



1. He had 2 fumbles in 2014. The Atlanta one was a TD, but the refs screwed up. Should have had 1

2. He has 5 fumbles in 386 receptions, so once every 76.6 receptions. Don't act like he has some huge history of fumbling - 0 in 2013



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This post was edited on 2/3/15 at 1:05 pm
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:00 am to
Holy long post. Haha
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:08 am to
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Holy long post. Haha





I'll still be accused of not having "facts" to back up my opinion.
Posted by drake20
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
13123 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 1:07 pm to
But hey, don't let the "hard cold facts" get in your way, goatman
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64355 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 1:16 pm to


Well done sir!
Posted by goatman1419
Prairieville,LA
Member since Jan 2007
3070 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 6:40 pm to
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But hey, don't let the "hard cold facts" get in your way, goatman


I've put as many stats as possible in this thread. I've had an opinion and backed it with NFL stats.
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