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Why didn't we rest Jimmy Graham when injured?

Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:14 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:14 am
If he doesn't need surgery and is getting healthier, why didn't we sit him when the injury occurred

I appreciate that he is willing to play through injuries, but Sean Payton and our medical staff need to look at the entire season and not just each individual game.

Calvin Johnson sat out until he was 100%. A 100% Jimmy Graham for 8-10 games > an injured Jimmy Graham for the other 6
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166124 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:17 am to
So something that he "can" play through and help the team.
He can still be healing even though he's playing through it.
May take longer than the length of season to really heal anyways.
He puts his body on the line for the team and is only harassed 2 years in a row for it.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:25 am to
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He puts his body on the line for the team and is only harassed 2 years in a row for it.



I completely agree.

quote:

He can still be healing even though he's playing through it.



Right, but he got to a point where he couldn't extend his arm over his head.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166124 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:29 am to
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Right, but he got to a point where he couldn't extend his arm over his head.



yea well good thing we got drew brees as his qb and not cam newton!
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72460 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:10 am to
Ginger said he wasn't soft and wanted to prove saints talk wrong.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16285 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:39 am to
And, even if he is going to insist on playing in the game; why put him out there when the game is basically decided.
Posted by 3HourTour
A whiskey barrel
Member since Mar 2006
21223 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:41 am to
He was tired of being labeled as soft by Saints talk
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:53 am to
Because he wasn't hurt badly enough. Players play through dings all the time but Jimmy seems to be the one who wants to use them as an excuse for his poor play.
Posted by BarbeTiger
Mr. White's Lab Yo
Member since Jan 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 12:07 pm to
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but Jimmy seems to be the one who wants to use them as an excuse for his poor play.


Look guys we have an idiot over here
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72460 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 2:21 pm to
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He was tired of being labeled as soft by Saints talk



yea, i already had mentioned that above.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 2:25 pm to
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Because he wasn't hurt badly enough.


Neither was Calvin Johnson.

And he was hurt pretty badly but played through it

quote:

Players play through dings all the time but Jimmy seems to be the one who wants to use them as an excuse for his poor play.


Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32856 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 8:48 pm to
We were playing for a playoff spot and we pass to him more than other people.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17886 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:11 pm to
If every hurt player sat, no one would have a complete starting roster.
Posted by WDcajun
Lafayette,La
Member since Dec 2003
4198 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:57 pm to
When you have a 11 million dollar tight end and zero WR's to complement it you use that TE to drag coverage his way.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8807 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:26 am to
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If every hurt player sat, no one would have a complete starting roster


Difference is, he wasn't just hurt, he was injured. There is a difference.

IMO, there's no way he was a better play than Watson or Hill given how obviously injured he was.

Wasn't even an effective decoy.

I wonder if resting him for a few weeks would have provided a somewhat healed Jimmy for a shot a the playoffs at the end of the year, but it probably was a wash either way.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64156 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:28 am to
About two to three people perhaps know the answer. Jimmy and the doctors.

People here?

Not so much.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:41 am to
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About two to three people perhaps know the answer. Jimmy and the doctors.



And the coaches, his physical therapist, and the people who did the tests.

I've talked to people in various roles with the Saints about it, who were in the know, and they said the injury was serious. They also said the pain was severe with it and were surprised he was playing at all. That is the problem I have with the Jimmy Graham pussy BS.

The people I talked to were also surprised that he didn't need surgery though.

Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30080 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 11:30 am to
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IMO, there's no way he was a better play than Watson or Hill given how obviously injured he was.

Wasn't even an effective decoy


Pittsburgh says you're wrong.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20853 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:42 pm to
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He was tired of being labeled as soft by Saints talk


Ahhh, don't forget that players around the league have started calling him soft too...
Posted by goatman1419
Prairieville,LA
Member since Jan 2007
3070 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:45 pm to
Graham got paid and got soft period. Anyone that says different is purely a homer. The guy has alligator arms and has been taken out of entire games by teams willing to be physical with him. Look back at the Seattle playoff game vs what gronk did last night and you'll quickly realize graham isn't anything more than a over paid over hyped gimmick that needs to take a pay cut.
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