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re: More Fatties Than Ever Before in the United States of Inevitable Diabetes
Posted on 1/27/15 at 11:51 am to Winkface
Posted on 1/27/15 at 11:51 am to Winkface
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Everyone is going to argue BMI here but this is the bigger problem with their study. NHANES estimates obesity around 35%. The increase is probably real but the overall prevalence is most likely underestimated.
Yeah, the study was done the same way the last time, so even if it is done by anonymous phone calls and you take issue with that method, it's still pretty crazy that we are continuing to see an uptick in the percentage of obesity, despite the fact that society as a whole recognizes the problem and even has prominent public figures (such as the First Lady) working to curb the problem.
Bottom line is: America is going to collapse under its own weight soon if nothing is done, whether that is a change in the medical system to eliminate care or to seriously decrease care given to people who are morbidly obese based on a doctor's determination as to what is in the best interest of the State (like in Britain), or a daily ration of food for people. Clearly, Americans are incapable of deciding for themselves what is healthy and what isn't, so drastic measures will have to be taken. This "epidemic" is becoming increasingly out of hand.
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Posted on 1/27/15 at 11:53 am to etm512
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Yeah it's pretty dumb. For someone 5'9" like myself, at 175 lbs. I am considered overweight. Normal weight would be 125-169 lbs according to this metric.
Other than a world-class distance runner, no male taller than 5'8" should be viewed as "healthy" while weighing less than 130 lbs.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:07 pm to saint amant steve
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Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:10 pm to ZereauxSum
Open your eyes, the percentage of obese people in this nation is off the scales.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:12 pm to TigerPanzer
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Open your eyes, the percentage of obese people in this nation is off the scales.
One, this has been the case for years.
Two, why should I care? As long as I take care of my body, why do i GAF about anyone else's?
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:15 pm to ZereauxSum
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Two, why should I care? As long as I take care of my body, why do i GAF about anyone else's?
Because its going to cost all of us more money in the end.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:20 pm to josh336
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Because its going to cost all of us more money in the end.
If that happens, then blame the insurance companies for failing at risk-based pricing.
For the record, I think this argument is overblown. We're starting to see a lot of growth in wellness programs that give discounts on premiums to people who do the right thing health wise.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:21 pm to saint amant steve
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Which physique looks healthier to you?
Most would agree that the physique on the left looks better, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily healthier. The guy on the right could run 30+ miles per week, and as a result, could have lower triglycerides and blood pressure than the guy on the left.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:35 pm to Cs
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A growing body of research shows that working out with weights has health benefits beyond simply bulking up one's muscles and strengthening bones. Studies are finding that more lean muscle mass may allow kidney dialysis patients to live longer, give older people better cognitive function, reduce depression, boost good cholesterol, lessen the swelling and discomfort of lymphedema after breast cancer and help lower the risk of diabetes.
"Muscle is our largest metabolically active organ, and that's the backdrop that people usually forget," said Kent Adams, director of the exercise physiology lab at Cal State Monterey Bay. Strengthening the muscles "has a ripple effect throughout the body on things like metabolic syndrome and obesity."
When we hit middle age, muscle mass gradually diminishes by up to about 1% a year in a process called sarcopenia. Women also are in danger of losing bone mass as they age, especially after the onset of menopause. Some studies have shown that moderate to intense strength training not only builds skeletal muscle but increases bone density as well.
Strength training often takes a back seat to cardiovascular training, but it can benefit the heart in ways that its more popular cousin can't.
During cardio exercise, the heart loads up with blood and pumps it out to the rest of the body: As a result, Potteiger said, "the heart gets better and more efficient at pumping."
But during resistance training, muscles generate more force than they do during endurance exercises, and the heart is no exception, Potteiger said. During a strength workout, the heart's muscle tissue contracts forcefully to push the blood out. Like all muscles, stress causes small tears in the muscle fibers. When the body repairs those tears, muscles grow. The result is a stronger heart, not just one that's more efficient at pumping.
Another big advantage of working out with weights is improving glucose metabolism, which can reduce the risk of diabetes. Strength training boosts the number of proteins that take glucose out of the blood and transport it into the skeletal muscle, giving the muscles more energy and lowering overall blood-glucose levels.
Advantages of increased lean body mass
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:36 pm to LoveThatMoney
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Obesity is determined as having a body mass index (BMI) score of 30 or higher. A BMI of 25 to 29.9 is considered overweight, a BMI of 18.5 to 24.9 is considered normal weight, and a BMI of 18.4 or less is considered underweight
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:37 pm to DelU249
BMI isn't bullshite at all actually when used properly (to gauge obesity in large populations). It works quite well for that.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:39 pm to tween the hedges
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BMI is accurate for about everyone that isn't pregnant or college or higher level athelete
Not at all. If anything it is closest for women. The heights and weights associated with them that they have for men are absolutely ridiculous.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:41 pm to etm512
5'9" 175 lbs is either stocky as all hell, straight up fat, or if lean a body builder body type. So I'd say your example actually supports BMI. Most people don't ever touch a weight.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:42 pm to More beer please
98% of our population doesn't lift weights.... ever.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:46 pm to TejasHorn
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BMI is good as a "benchmark" type overall measure, as mentioned above.
The fact that it's increased isn't indicating we're all hitting the weights more.
There is a coming diabetes mega-epidemic, especially in the south / Texas.
I have a very good friend who's a pediatric endocrinologist. One of her main areas of practice is treating adolescents with Type II diabetes. Just 15 years ago a child with Type II was literally unheard of. Now there are enough of them to have their own medical specialty.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:47 pm to thesoccerfanjax
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Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:47 pm to thesoccerfanjax
I wish the government would let Darwin do his work and "cut the fat" in this country regarding people who lack enough self-respect to stop drinking 2 cokes a day. That same person is probably going to have three kids that he or she can't pay for, and it's probable the kids will likely end up being dumbasses too
This post was edited on 1/27/15 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:48 pm to thesoccerfanjax
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98% of our population doesn't lift weights.... ever
Oh really?
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Not all was bleak, the CDC said. About 52 percent of surveyed adults said they met only the aerobic activity guidelines while 29 percent met only the muscle-strengthening components.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:48 pm to More beer please
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Not at all. If anything it is closest for women. The heights and weights associated with them that they have for men are absolutely ridiculous.
Exactly. BMI is completely flawed whenever you factor muscle into the equation.
The reason why it works better for women is because they typically have a much smaller lean body mass than males due to their greater tendency to store body fat and their lack of muscle mass.
The female numbers look pretty good to me and are realistically attainable.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:49 pm to thesoccerfanjax
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5'9" 175 lbs is either stocky as all hell, straight up fat, or if lean a body builder body type.
What?
5'9" 175 looks absolutely normal and you wouldn't even think twice about seeing someone that size. It's easy to get to that weight with a decent lifting program.
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