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re: Is there a worse basketball coach at a Power 5 school than Rick Barnes?

Posted on 1/24/15 at 5:33 pm to
Posted by Dawgsontop34
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 5:33 pm to
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gthog61


I would talk more crap about him if we didn't lose to him all the time.

And I know Aldridge was there. The guys I listed have been there since the last time Barnes made a sweet 16.
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 5:42 pm to
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Steve alford


TITCR
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 8:12 pm to
Meh. Barnes made
Texas a consistent winner. He sort of parallels Mack Brown oddly enough.

I love how people always jump on a coach who recruits well but doesn't win huge. It's better than recruiting well at all...
Posted by 949SoCalTiger
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 10:42 pm to
Mark Fox
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 11:17 pm to
Don't forget Aldridge and T.J. Ford

Barnes has a ton of talent this year, too. But Texas won't make it out of the second round
Posted by Paul Allen
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 11:27 pm to
Larry Eustachy
Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
One Foty Fo uh uh Magnolia Screet
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 11:33 pm to
This dude named Trent Johnson at TCU
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42466 posts
Posted on 1/24/15 at 11:37 pm to
I remember all those guys. I was just including the ones that he's had since he made his last sweet 16 or I would have included TJ, LA, Damion, DJ, and multiple others.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 11:38 pm to
Travis Ford
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 11:41 pm to
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Couldn't make it out of the second round with Kevin Durant and hasn't made a Sweet 16 since 2008. His players on teams since then have included Damion James, Dexter Pittman, Jordan Hamilton, Avery Bradley, Corey Joseph, Tristan Thompson, Myck Kabongo, and J'Covan Brown.

Is there any coach that can come close to matching that?


Rick Barnes is essentially stealing money to be an Xavier-level program, despite having enormous resources and talent at his disposal.

Think about his players:

LaMarcus Aldridge
DJ Augustine
Avery Bradley
Kevin Durant
Maurice Evans
TJ Ford
Daniel Gibson
Jordan Hamilton
Royal Ivey
Damion James
Corey Joseph
Chris Mihm
Chris Owens
Dexter Pittman
James Thomas
Tristan Thompson
PJ Tucker

Most of these guys aren't just NBA players who barely made the league-- most of them have logged over 300 games in the NBA.

In his 17 year tenure, he's had essentially 4 competent to marginal pros on his roster just about every season. His results? One Final Four, two Elite Eights, one Sweet 16--- and three regular season conference titles.




Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 11:46 pm to
GTFO
Posted by BeYou
DFW
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/25/15 at 12:12 am to
When Drew arrived at Baylor, the first team he fielded consisted of players that tried out. Literally held try outs at the SLC.

He now has a 219-161 record as a head coach and 2 Elite Eight trips now. He can't help who he plays against in the in the NCAA tournament. The 2010 team could of won it all. The charge on Acy cost us that game, it hurts :(

Did he toe the line in recruiting, certainly. But he did what he had to do to get the program where it is.

He certainly ins't the greatest in game coach but he has gotten better. One of the biggest complaints against him is that he isn't a x's and o's coach but he has gotten better the more experience he has been given.

Certainly not the worst P5 bball coach.
This post was edited on 1/25/15 at 12:21 am
Posted by Sellecks Moustache
NC
Member since Jun 2014
5994 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 1:26 am to
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Scott Drew

Is a broke man's Calipari. Not bad. However, Johnny Jones is a broke man's Scott Drew. Can't wait to see LSU get busted for their recruiting violations.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:14 am to
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2010 Baylor could have easily won it all. They should have beaten Duke.


:kige:


But you know how the refs are with Duke...
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/25/15 at 10:27 am to
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Meh. Barnes made
Texas a consistent winner. He sort of parallels Mack Brown oddly enough


the parallels between brown and barnes are pretty strong, both came from carolina schools around the same time(unc and clemson) and revived their respective programs and had immediate success. only difference is brown reached the pinnacle by winning a national title(and playing for a second) while barnes never got quite that high.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 1/25/15 at 10:44 am to
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In his 17 year tenure, he's had essentially 4 competent to marginal pros on his roster just about every season. His results? One Final Four, two Elite Eights, one Sweet 16--- and three regular season conference titles.



To be fair... There are a ton of coaches and fanbases that would love a resume like that...............
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52743 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 10:46 am to
TJ Ford, who actually got them to the Final Four
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
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Posted on 1/25/15 at 10:51 am to
Rick Ray
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25506 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 11:01 am to
My problem with threads like this involve the exaggeration of the OP.

To honestly answer the question, you could take head coaches of the shittiest teams in the Power 5, plus the underperformers.

In the PAC-12 alone I'd say Barnes is currently better than Enfield, Alford, Romar...and whoever the hell is at Wazzu, Cal, or Oregon State. I'd probably throw in Sendek and Boyle and Altman also.

That leaves Krystkowiak, Miller, and Dawkins...
Posted by 949SoCalTiger
Member since Jan 2015
268 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 4:12 pm to
Your coach and bb program suck...fact
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