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IYO, which of the major sports is the most "fair?" Based on this criteria..
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:30 pm
1. Ability for teams, from the best teams to the worst, to acquire and keep the talent needed to win.
2. Rules of the game. How consistently they can be enforced. Potential bias. etc.
3. How the champion is decided. Is it always the best team? Most deserving? Hottest team at the end of the season?
Which major sport, football(NFL or CFB), NBA, MLB, or NHL...is the most fair for all participants?
2. Rules of the game. How consistently they can be enforced. Potential bias. etc.
3. How the champion is decided. Is it always the best team? Most deserving? Hottest team at the end of the season?
Which major sport, football(NFL or CFB), NBA, MLB, or NHL...is the most fair for all participants?
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:37 pm to ReauxlTide222
They are all equally fair. All three of your criteria are decided democratically by each league's clubs.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:38 pm to ReauxlTide222
In football, I really like the fact that there are specified downs from scrimmage, and each team has the opportunity to score on every play.
Well, except on extra points in the NFL. Which I think is incredibly unbalanced. If the offense has the chance to score 1 or 2 points on that play, then so should the defense.
Well, except on extra points in the NFL. Which I think is incredibly unbalanced. If the offense has the chance to score 1 or 2 points on that play, then so should the defense.
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:40 pm to BayouBengals03
quote:How is this different from basketball and hockey?
and each team has the opportunity to score on every play.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:40 pm to pvilleguru
quote:I was pretty shocked to see how much parity there is in the NHL. Baseball has the most(in terms of who wins the championship). But the NHL was up there, think they've had 16 different winners in the past 30 years.
NHL.
Idk if parity is the only thing to look at though
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:42 pm to ReauxlTide222
Hockey and Baseball, then NFL and then NBA.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:44 pm to pvilleguru
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How is this different from basketball and hockey?
Possession is constantly changing and the game is way more free-flowing.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:44 pm to ReauxlTide222
I know nothing about the NHL, so probably it.
The good thing about the NBA is that most of the time the best team wins. That's what happens when you have 4 rounds of possible 7-game series--minimizes the chances of an upset. No single elimination BS. Yes, LA/Sacto in 2002 was a sham. The best team didn't win that year. And injuries obviously can affect the outcome as well.
People bitch about the large/small market disparity, but the Spurs have won 1/3 of the championships over the past 15 years. The Jazz and Blazers have had tons of success over the years. OKC is great. The Cavs are stacked with stars, although their record doesn't reflect it. The 2012 draft was fixed to save the Pellies, etc. The Knicks have been garbage for most of their history.
The good thing about the NBA is that most of the time the best team wins. That's what happens when you have 4 rounds of possible 7-game series--minimizes the chances of an upset. No single elimination BS. Yes, LA/Sacto in 2002 was a sham. The best team didn't win that year. And injuries obviously can affect the outcome as well.
People bitch about the large/small market disparity, but the Spurs have won 1/3 of the championships over the past 15 years. The Jazz and Blazers have had tons of success over the years. OKC is great. The Cavs are stacked with stars, although their record doesn't reflect it. The 2012 draft was fixed to save the Pellies, etc. The Knicks have been garbage for most of their history.
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:48 pm to pvilleguru
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NHL.
Lots of mediocre teams win championships. And how many teams win because their goalies go into Beast Mode in the postseason, like Brodeur and Roy?
This year's Stanley Cup Finals was between the 5th best point total in the East and 6th best in the West.
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:49 pm to mattz1122
All sports are designed to be fair competition.
I'll say that baseball by design to favor the defense.
Hockey and basketball are more free flowing.
Football is designed to favor the offense.
I'll say that baseball by design to favor the defense.
Hockey and basketball are more free flowing.
Football is designed to favor the offense.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:54 pm to BayouBengals03
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Possession is constantly changing and the game is way more free-flowing.
This is why I have basketball last:
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1. Ability for teams, from the best teams to the worst, to acquire and keep the talent needed to win.
If you get the right superstar or two you can dominate for a long time. Its not that way so much in the other sports except maybe an elite QB in the NFL and even then its harder.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:56 pm to ReauxlTide222
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1. Ability for teams, from the best teams to the worst, to acquire and keep the talent needed to win.
The NFL since you have a draft without a lottery and a salary cap.
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2. Rules of the game. How consistently they can be enforced. Potential bias. etc.
Baseball. Each team gets an equal amount of time with the offense
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3. How the champion is decided. Is it always the best team? Most deserving? Hottest team at the end of the season?
I would like to say the Baseball until they added the stupid one-game wildcard playoff. But you have five game and 7 game series and home field advantage is most reduced in baseball and you play 162 games so there are plenty of games to get into the playoffs.
The NHL might be more fair than baseball though since you have 7 game series across all levels of the playoffs.
the NFL is least fair since you have one game playoffs for all levels.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:59 pm to lsu480
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If you get the right superstar or two you can dominate for a long time. Its not that way so much in the other sports except maybe an elite QB in the NFL and even then its harder.
by evidence and the very nature of the sport, Baseball is the easiest to dominate with a superstar pitcher.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 7:01 pm to mattz1122
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The good thing about the NBA is that most of the time the best team wins. That's what happens when you have 4 rounds of possible 7-game series--minimizes the chances of an upset. No single elimination BS. Yes, LA/Sacto in 2002 was a sham. The best team didn't win that year. And injuries obviously can affect the outcome as well.
The older I get the more I loathe single elimination playoff playoff games. I actually think the European style of soccer scoring is the most "fair" as they are simply taking the best team over almost 40 games. Huge sample size that rewards consistent greatness. Also every team is playing every other team twice (home/away). It really doesn't get more fair than that.
In terms of US, I'd say hockey has most fair playoff system. Seems like you see quite a few game 6/7s in the nfl playoffs every year.
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 1/21/15 at 7:02 pm to lsutigers1992
quote:This, along with the QB position, are interesting to look at. Would never complain of it being "unfair" as a fan, but if you take rooting interests out of it, there might be room to discuss it.
And how many teams win because their goalies go into Beast Mode in the postseason, like Brodeur and Roy?
Bucs last GM was on SVP the other day discussing the draft. He brought up how Indy went from Manning to Luck. Manning gets hurt, win 2 games, hello Luck era. In a sport where that one position is outrageously important, it's pretty crazy that a team can go from Manning to Luck, while other teams can't find ANYTHING.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 7:16 pm to ReauxlTide222
It's difficult because "fair" is different to different people. Some might say allowing more teams in the playoffs is fair. Others might disagree. Some might say having an earlier free agency is more fair. Others might disagree.
For example, you mention in your question No. 1 that the ability to keep top talent is fair. Well, if that's the case, there should be less parity, but would you say that's less fair?
For example, you mention in your question No. 1 that the ability to keep top talent is fair. Well, if that's the case, there should be less parity, but would you say that's less fair?
Posted on 1/21/15 at 7:32 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
quote:There's no doubt that there are too many factors to really get a concrete answer. Say an owner is less attentive than another and keeps hiring horrible GMs and they form a shittastic team of mistakes and horrible decisions. Is it fair that an entire organization of a hundred people can be run into the ground by a few guys? Idk.
For example, you mention in your question No. 1 that the ability to keep top talent is fair. Well, if that's the case, there should be less parity, but would you say that's less fair?
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