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Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:01 pm to RTR America
Josh Smith would be a fine pick up under the right coach. Could be a good defender, rebounder, passer and scorer if he was in the right system. Not sure he's coachable now though, I haven't paid much attention to him since he's been pigeon holed into the "great dunker" category of useless players.
I will say that Houston is stronger now than when they had Yao and TMac, and that's saying something at least. If they could get JVG back, they'd be dangerous.
I will say that Houston is stronger now than when they had Yao and TMac, and that's saying something at least. If they could get JVG back, they'd be dangerous.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:39 pm to RTR America
There goes Houston's chance to make serious run at the title.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 4:05 pm to mattz1122
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People who think this isn't a good a move have very little knowledge about the game. His role in Houston will be completely different from his role in Detroit.
This is what Smith brings to the table:
a very large ego
poor shot selection
poor chemistry with teammates
good jumping ability
good athleticism (though it's dwindling)
average post presence
Posted on 12/24/14 at 4:09 pm to gatorhata9
Yeah... When he was at that shitshow in Detroit, played out of position, and was supposed to be somewhat of the leader.
None of that will be the case in Houston. This is a guy who led the league in defensive win shares in 2011-12. If he turns out to be a cancer, then he'll be released.
People seem to have trouble comprehending "low risk, high reward."
None of that will be the case in Houston. This is a guy who led the league in defensive win shares in 2011-12. If he turns out to be a cancer, then he'll be released.
People seem to have trouble comprehending "low risk, high reward."
Posted on 12/24/14 at 4:18 pm to mattz1122
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People seem to have trouble comprehending "low risk, high reward."
People just don't want to acknowledge that this move either makes the great Rockets better or doesn't hurt them at all. Period. Be afraid.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 4:21 pm to Spankadelphia
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If they could get JVG back, they'd be dangerous.
McHale has been a phenomenal coach this year. I wanted JVG or SVG the last couple of years, but McHale has been one of the best coaches in the league this year.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 4:31 pm to NFLU
I really don't like Smith as a featured player on offense...but I don't think he's going to be a featured player.
The one positive thing about Smith going to the Rockets is that his shot, the long two, is pretty much outlawed by the Rockets. 3s and layups.
Josh Smith is now going to split time guarding Durant, Dirk,Kawhi with Ariza. He'll guard Z-Bo & Blake tough.
Smith is a pretty decent glue guy when he's not the feature player. He's a good passer, can run the floor well, protect the rim on the weak side. Playing with Howard and Harden will help, two players who suffered their share of vitriol from fans and media.
As stated earlier, his role will be different and if he doesn't buy in, the Rockets will cut him. Having his best man there means he'll likely have fun again and he will buy in.
The crappy thing besides making the SW that much tougher is that Smith, as Lowe and Simmons said, has the chance to play up his value at get another contract on top what's he's making.
So in real money, by next year, he could be making $20 million dollars to play basketball for one team and to not play for the Pistons.
The one positive thing about Smith going to the Rockets is that his shot, the long two, is pretty much outlawed by the Rockets. 3s and layups.
Josh Smith is now going to split time guarding Durant, Dirk,Kawhi with Ariza. He'll guard Z-Bo & Blake tough.
Smith is a pretty decent glue guy when he's not the feature player. He's a good passer, can run the floor well, protect the rim on the weak side. Playing with Howard and Harden will help, two players who suffered their share of vitriol from fans and media.
As stated earlier, his role will be different and if he doesn't buy in, the Rockets will cut him. Having his best man there means he'll likely have fun again and he will buy in.
The crappy thing besides making the SW that much tougher is that Smith, as Lowe and Simmons said, has the chance to play up his value at get another contract on top what's he's making.
So in real money, by next year, he could be making $20 million dollars to play basketball for one team and to not play for the Pistons.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 12/24/14 at 4:35 pm to RTR America
The fact is that Detroit owed this dude a boatload of money over the next two years and decided to waive him. That screams knucklehead regardless of what position they had him playing.
He's Houston's problem now.
He's Houston's problem now.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 5:08 pm to Spankadelphia
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The fact is that Detroit owed this dude a boatload of money over the next two years and decided to waive him. That screams knucklehead regardless of what position they had him playing. He's Houston's problem now.
Or it means they said "frick it, let's go super tank mode"
Posted on 12/24/14 at 5:36 pm to Spankadelphia
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The fact is that Detroit owed this dude a boatload of money over the next two years and decided to waive him. That screams knucklehead regardless of what position they had him playing.
While I would tend to agree, there are three huge differences in the situation.
1. He will play the position he wants to play.
2. He will be playing with his best friend since childhood (Dwight).
3. The Rockets are a contender, so there is an actual reason to want to play hard.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:09 pm to CunningLinguist
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Rockets stacked, Pels fricked
99-90 bitch
Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:40 pm to SwaggerCopter
From someone that has watched every Pistons game this year except for one, the rockets and their fans will not be happy with the josh smith acquisition. Someone can feel free to bookmark this post.
For people saying that he will play great because he is playing the 4, that is what he mostly played this year. He is an inefficient shooter, terrible free throw shooter, and, worst of all, an absolutely horrible finisher around the basket. He is also turnover prone.
Houston fans are enamored with him, and that will continue, especially after he gets his first stat-stuffer game, which might not take him long. But those games are few and far between. I do, however, strongly feel that smith is a good teammate.
But it won't work. I assure you. Smith was not asked to carry a huge load in Detroit. And he is having his worst year. What is really scary about smith is that his shot selection is much improved, and even that can't improve his field goal percentage.
For people saying that he will play great because he is playing the 4, that is what he mostly played this year. He is an inefficient shooter, terrible free throw shooter, and, worst of all, an absolutely horrible finisher around the basket. He is also turnover prone.
Houston fans are enamored with him, and that will continue, especially after he gets his first stat-stuffer game, which might not take him long. But those games are few and far between. I do, however, strongly feel that smith is a good teammate.
But it won't work. I assure you. Smith was not asked to carry a huge load in Detroit. And he is having his worst year. What is really scary about smith is that his shot selection is much improved, and even that can't improve his field goal percentage.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:47 pm to LSU Piston
I haven't read all of this...but it has to be MattZ, Boomtard, Swaggtard, and PCTeazy making a bunch of Rocketarded comments and then a bunch of ATL, DET, and NOLA posters loling at them?
Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:51 pm to quail man
Pelitards are making rocketarded comments and the Rocketards are LOLing at them???
Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:51 pm to LSU Piston
Lots of players have gone from crap to pretty damn solid when going from a bad team to a winning team. It wouldn't be surprising at all for it to happen here.
Look at a guy like Boris Diaw who was shooting 41% in Charlotte, traded to SAS and shoots 59%.
Belinelli went from 39% to 49%.
You say he is a good teammate that is the more important than his shooting %s. He def won't be taking 15 shots a game, if he can buy in and play his role he can be great.
Look at a guy like Boris Diaw who was shooting 41% in Charlotte, traded to SAS and shoots 59%.
Belinelli went from 39% to 49%.
You say he is a good teammate that is the more important than his shooting %s. He def won't be taking 15 shots a game, if he can buy in and play his role he can be great.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:58 pm to Boomshockalocka
OH btw, props to the great Darryl Morey now has landed Ariza, Brewer, and Smith for the same amount of money that Dallas is paying Parsons.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:58 pm to Dire Wolf
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"frick it, let's go super tank mode"
As talented as he is, I fully expect the Pistons to be better without him. He was horrific offensively...and despite what continues to be perpetuated, he didn't really play the three much this year. His struggles playing the four should be cause for concern.
I do think he will help Houston though.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:58 pm to SwaggerCopter
1. Josh loves chucking threes and the SF position was his idea in the first place.
2. Harden, Smith, and Dwert. Should be a good shitshow come playoff time.
3. Rockets are first round fodder like every other year.
2. Harden, Smith, and Dwert. Should be a good shitshow come playoff time.
3. Rockets are first round fodder like every other year.
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