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re: Rank the top 5 PGs in the NBA right now

Posted on 12/24/14 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8765 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

1. Westbrook 2. Curry 3. CP3 4. Parker 5. Lillard


I agree that these are the top 5. The order can be debated with legitimate arguments in any order, IMO.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 2:12 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110945 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:11 pm to
Westbrook is playing better than any PG at the moment.

But based on the entire season, I'd go:

1. Paul
2. Curry
3. Westbrook
Posted by USAF Hart
My House
Member since Jun 2011
10273 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:22 pm to
When they come back down to earth? That was already "supposed to happen" during this last 5 game stretch. Hell, most of us would have been ecstatic with a 3-2 record, but the fact that we went 5-0 is HUGE and it shows just how good this team is when fully healthy and with Bud at the helm. Just FYI, I was not serious about Teague. He's playing really well, but he still has to prove that he isn't afraid to become the floor general out there. His game is there, but his mentality is not.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5251 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:27 pm to
CP3, Steph, Westbrook, Damian, Lowry
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 6:29 pm
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:39 pm to
Parker
Curry
Westbrook
Paul
Conley
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
7116 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:49 pm to
Westbrook
Curry
Rondo
Lillard
Wall
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83940 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:50 pm to
Thanks, brah.
Posted by AUTigermitch1995
Auburn
Member since Dec 2014
1612 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

1. Paul
2. Curry
3. Westbrook


This plus Lillard at 4, parker at 5. In 3 years I'll take Lillard over RW, hell I might right now.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12723 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:15 pm to
I always wish Paul had the talent around him in his prime to see if he could buck the "traditional PGs don't win" myth. He's had one legit chance his entire career before very obviously losing a step to injury (don't believe me, look up 07-08 Paul).

If I had to take 5 PGs into the playoffs with me I'd go Westbrook, Lillard, Curry, Paul, Parker in that order.
Posted by AUTigermitch1995
Auburn
Member since Dec 2014
1612 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

If I had to take 5 PGs into the playoffs with me I'd go Westbrook, Lillard, Curry, Paul, Parker in that order.



That's a good debate. I think I'd go 1a and 1b is Curry and Westbrook, and 1z is Lillard. So close.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 12:28 am to
I'm a big Lillard fan, but he may score 40 while his man scores 50. He gave up a 40 point game to George Hill, George fracking Hill...

His defense keeps him out of my top 5.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 12:42 am to
1. Curry
2. Westbrook
3. Wall
4. CP3
5. Kyle Lowry

Next group would be Lillard, Conley, Tony Parker, etc.

I'm a huge Lillard fan, but think he's actually more of a SG guard than a PG. He averaged 5.3assists last year and right over 6 this year. Not bad by any means, but would like to see him be in the 7-8range. I do like that he's shooting much more efficiently this year, below 43% these last 2 years to over 46% this season. And his steals are up, below 1.0 per game the past 2 seasons to 1.5 this year. So he's improved this year. Still not a great defender but is better. If he keeps this up he will be in my top 5 list soon.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 12:45 am to
I like how this board relies on basic stats lines to argue their cases.

A true PG has to facilitate and help his team's in ways that don't mecessarily show in the assist column.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278505 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 2:17 am to
Make a case for John Wall over Chris Paul. You're clueless
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30113 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 3:41 am to
There is not a strong case you can make for Wall > CP3...like at all

CP3 vs. Wall's 2014 numbers:

MPG
34.8 < 36.1

FG%
49.1 > 45.2

3PT%
40.0 > 32.4

FT%
88.5 > 75.8

AST
9.7 < 10.4

TOV
2.1 > 3.8

AST:TO Ratio
4.62 > 2.74

TRB
4.6 = 4.6

PPG
18.1 > 17.8

FGA
13.6 < 14.7

ortg
126 > 106

drtg
106 < 101

PER
25.6 > 20.8

VORP
6.3 > 4.5

USG%
22.8 < 25.9

WS
5.4 > 3.0
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40950 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 3:56 am to
1. Westbrook
2. Curry
3. CP3
4. Dame
5. Lowry
This post was edited on 12/25/14 at 4:01 am
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40950 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 3:59 am to
quote:

I'm a big Lillard fan, but he may score 40 while his man scores 50. He gave up a 40 point game to George Hill, George fracking Hill...

His defense keeps him out of my top 5.



That was last season. He has been much, much better defensively this season.
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8645 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 8:30 am to
FWIW, his defensive win shares have actually slightly decreased from last season to this season.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110945 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

Parker 
Curry 
Westbrook 
Paul 
Conley

is that in no particular order?
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