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re: Satanic Temple puts up display at Michigan Capital
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:45 pm to Revelator
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:45 pm to Revelator
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And I'm still waiting on these verifiable facts that there is no God?!
You can't prove a negative. And the burden of proof is on you. You are the one making the claim about a SkyDaddy. Not atheists.
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:47 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:
That's why we should all be agnostic and just admit that we don't know.
And that would be perfectly acceptable Boosie.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:47 pm to boosiebadazz
God exists in the same way Krishna , Allah and Charlie sheen exists.
In (and only in) the mind of their faithful.
In (and only in) the mind of their faithful.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:48 pm to genuineLSUtiger
quote:
You can't prove a negative. And the burden of proof is on you. You are the one making the claim about a SkyDaddy. Not atheists.
Apparently you haven't read the thread or many post?
He said his atheism is based on verifiable facts. And since atheism is the belief that there is no God, I'm waiting for him to produce these facts that back up his assertion.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:49 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:Not much of an admission actually. We don't know. That's a concept foundational to faith.
That's why we should all be agnostic and just admit that we don't know.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:52 pm to FT
quote:
And is miles away from any point I may make about the existence of God.
God distinctly tells us He is observable. Romans 8:20 For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
It is what you attribute everything you see that determines your belief. I walk out and look at this world we live in and admittedly not knowing how everything works in harmony and choose to believe there is a Creator that set it up that way. Some choose not to. But to me God is very observable.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:52 pm to genuineLSUtiger
quote:No . . . . so let's try this yet again . . . . Lay out your hypothesis of the origin of matter.
You can't prove a negative. And the burden of proof is on you.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:53 pm to Revelator
quote:Wrong. :)
And since atheism is the belief that there is no God
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:53 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:has nothing to do with atheism
No . . . . so let's try this yet again . . . . Lay out your hypothesis of the origin of matter.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:54 pm to Lg
quote:
It is what you attribute everything you see that determines your belief. I walk out and look at this world we live in and admittedly not knowing how everything works in harmony and choose to believe there is a Creator that set it up that way. Some choose not to. But to me God is very observable.
You know, I dated a woman when i was younger and I was smitten with her. And I was convinced her not calling me was her signal to me that she cared.
Just because I think it doesn't make it true.
Same as religion.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:55 pm to FT
quote:Why do you?
I find it curious that I've sided with the atheists for much of this thread, while defending a belief in God, and they haven't asked me once why I believe in God despite my acknowledgement that science doesn't and can't prove God.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:56 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Not much of an admission actually. We don't know. That's a concept foundational to faith.
And the faithful go a step further and make an affirmtive declaration that there is. And the athesits go a step further and make an affirmative declaration that there isn't.
Why do we have to make the affirmative declaration either way?
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:56 pm to Hog on the Hill
Morality, and the Prime Mover.
Morality is the much larger of the two.
Morality is the much larger of the two.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:57 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:Atheists don't have to. Christians, Muslims and Jews do. You can't really be a Christian and not be sure that there's a God.
Why do we have to make the affirmative declaration either way?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:57 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:
And the athesits go a step further and make an affirmative declaration that there isn't.
Not true, at least not all atheists.
An agnostic atheist doesn't make an affirmative declaration. He says he can't know if there's a god, but doesn't believe in one because there is a lack of evidence for one.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:58 pm to FT
Aheists make the affirmative declaration that there is no god.
Agnostics are the only ones who don't make an affirmative declaration.
Agnostics are the only ones who don't make an affirmative declaration.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:59 pm to boosiebadazz
I should have worded that differently. Atheists don't have to be Atheists. Christians have to be Christians.
One can safely stay in the agnostic camp, the other cannot.
One can safely stay in the agnostic camp, the other cannot.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:59 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:Agnostic and atheist are not mutually exclusive. Neither are agnostic and theist. Refer to chart.
Aheists make the affirmative declaration that there is no god.
Agnostics are the only ones who don't make an affirmative declaration.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:59 pm to Hog on the Hill
I saw that chart earlier, and disagree with the "does not believe/ believes" binary proposition.
Where is the "I don't know" option?
Where is the "I don't know" option?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 5:00 pm to Hog on the Hill
quote:It has everything to do with science, as you claim does atheism.
has nothing to do with atheism
But by all means, let's not make it about atheism. Let's make it about you.
. . . . Lay out your hypothesis of the origin of matter.
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