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re: Satanic Temple puts up display at Michigan Capital
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:10 pm to FT
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:10 pm to FT
quote:It's very interesting that in order to avoid questions as to belief regarding origins of existence, one would actually claim we may not exist at all. Makes for one helluva head-up-the-arse contortion
Of course we're fricking real.
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:11 pm to FT
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A thread we might be able to join forces in!
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:16 pm to NC_Tigah
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Of course we're fricking real.
It's very interesting that in order to avoid questions as to belief regarding origins of existence, one would actually claim we may not exist at all. Makes for one helluva head-up-the-arse contortion
Actually it only means that I know I exist.
My constructs of existence are all I can truly know as fact.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:19 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Why?
As I've said, it is incredibly curious an atheist would attempt the claim as to be (A) pro-science, but (B) without even so much as a hypothesis as to beginnings, origin of matter, etc. That is absolutely fascinating.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:19 pm to Porkchop Express
quote:Now you're just trying really hard to sound smart. You exist, and based on your experiences, you can logically deduce, with greater efficacy than you can evolution, that others also exist. They behave similarly to you. They see you. You engage with them. They can be aware of you entirely apart from your awareness of them. They die without your consent. They are born without your approval. They hurt you without your sanction.
My constructs of existence are all I can truly know as fact.
If you, and you alone, existed, these people and things would bend to your will, because the universe would be nothing but a construct of your mind and therefore exist essentially for your benefit or amusement.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:20 pm to NC_Tigah
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Actually it is.
so the person who didn't make the claim has to fricking prove it? come the frick on man, what kind of childish bullshite is that?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:21 pm to FT
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The fact is that there is no evidence for your assertion.
I didn't make an assertion, he did. And I said it was a dumb one. And I've been waiting for him to prove his assertion since then. And you are chiming in trying to lead this away from the one point I'm wanting him to prove.
And when he can't make that point, he'll have to admit that his atheism is based on faith and not facts.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:21 pm to Tigerlaff
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I think it's great. It clearly jars people to find that something other than a major abrahamic religion can occupy public space.
I love it too. I enjoy seeing Christians get bent out of shape over other people having the gall to reject their ridiculous religious beliefs and speak out for their own minority beliefs. It drives those hypocrites nuts.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:21 pm to Porkchop Express
quote:So consider me a non-existent figment of your only possibly existent imagination.
Actually it only means that I know I exist.
This figment is asking you now, do you also deny the existence of matter?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:23 pm to monsterballads
quote:Let's try this again . . . . Layout your hypothesis of the origin of matter.
so the person who didn't make the claim has to fricking prove it?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:23 pm to Hog on the Hill
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Thank you for proving us all right. Now you can admit you were wrong!
He doesn't claim to lack belief in the idea that God exists, he said definitively that he does not and that he has the facts to prove it so save your glass banging until he proves it.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:23 pm to FT
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Now you're just trying really hard to sound smart. You exist, and based on your experiences, you can logically deduce, with greater efficacy than you can evolution, that others also exist. They behave similarly to you. They see you. You engage with them. They can be aware of you entirely apart from your awareness of them. They die without your consent. They are born without your approval. They hurt you without your sanction. If you, and you alone, existed, these people and things would bend to your will, because the universe would be nothing but a construct of your mind and therefore exist essentially for your benefit or amusement.
Thank you.
Everything you mentioned that makes me know that I exist is observable.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:24 pm to genuineLSUtiger
quote:Not really. Could not care less.
It drives those hypocrites nuts.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:25 pm to genuineLSUtiger
quote:Re-read the OP. This has zero to do with the OP woman's beliefs.
and speak out for their own minority beliefs
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:26 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Why? What's it got to do with the price of tea in China?
Let's try this again . . . . Layout your hypothesis of the origin of matter.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:27 pm to Porkchop Express
quote:And is miles away from any point I may make about the existence of God. I was just engaging the rather boring point you were making.
Thank you.
Everything you mentioned that makes me know that I exist is observable.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:30 pm to Hog on the Hill
quote:So as I posited earlier, your answer is:
Why? What's it got to do with the price of tea in China?
"Uh, ah dunno. can't be a'ponderin' thangs ah dunno 'bout."
In fact it is the requisite answer for anyone asserting atheism to be something other than a belief.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:37 pm to Superior Pariah
And unless anyone has forgotten, this is Porkchops smug post;
And I'm still waiting on these verifiable facts that there is no God?!
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An atheist bases things on facts. A Christian bases things on beliefs. Facts are verifiable. Beliefs are unverifiable.
And I'm still waiting on these verifiable facts that there is no God?!
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:43 pm to Hog on the Hill
I find it curious that I've sided with the atheists for much of this thread, while defending a belief in God, and they haven't asked me once why I believe in God despite my acknowledgement that science doesn't and can't prove God.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:44 pm to Revelator
That's why we should all be agnostic and just admit that we don't know.
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