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Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:41 pm to
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:41 pm to
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You mistakingly believe that facts have to be strictly scientific in nature.


I'll take any fact you are willing to supply that there is no God, scientific or otherwise.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:44 pm to
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That does not mean atheists believe there is no god.



a·the·ist
'aTHe?st/
noun
a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.


I think it does.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:44 pm to
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I'll take any fact you are willing to supply that there is no God, scientific or otherwise.
I'm saying this one more time.

You are telling him there is a God. Your job is to prove that to him. His job is not to prove your assertion wrong. If I came to you and declared myself purple, you could very safely walk away and ignore me. You would not suddenly be obligated to explain to me that I was not.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
12467 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

a·the·ist
'aTHe?st/
noun
a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.


I think it does.



disbelieve
[dis-bi-leev] Spell Syllables
Word Origin
verb (used with object), disbelieved, disbelieving.
1.
to have no belief in; refuse or reject belief in:

That definition you posted says that atheist means the lack of a believe or to not have a belief. It does not mean that an atheist "believes there is no god".
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57910 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:47 pm to
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You are telling him there is a God. Your job is to prove that to him. His job is not to prove your assertion wrong. If I came to you and declared myself purple, you could very safely walk away and ignore me. You would not suddenly be obligated to explain to me that I was not.




If I were witnessing to him or trying to convince him there is a God, you would be correct, but I'm not.
I simply want the,"facts" as he stated that show me there is no God.
Posted by Porkchop Express
Penderbrook
Member since Aug 2014
3961 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

You mistakingly believe that facts have to be strictly scientific in nature.

I'll take any fact you are willing to supply that there is no God, scientific or otherwise.


The fact that he didn't come to my Saints vs. Falcons party yesterday.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:50 pm to
The fact is that there is no evidence for your assertion.

Remember, I believe in God and I think I'm a pretty decent theistic apologist. I just find your debate tack very odd and sort of confusing here
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:50 pm to
There is no way to prove there is "no god" because it starts with the assumption there is a god.

Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
12467 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:50 pm to
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I simply want the,"facts" as he stated that show me there is no God.


This is the same argument that we are having about the definition of atheism. He does not have enough/any facts that prove to him that god exists.

Lack of a believe =/= believing the negative.
Posted by Porkchop Express
Penderbrook
Member since Aug 2014
3961 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:51 pm to
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If I were witnessing to him or trying to convince him there is a God, you would be correct, but I'm not.


Please...
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:52 pm to
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a·the·ist
'aTHe?st/
noun
a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
Thank you for proving us all right. Now you can admit you were wrong!
Posted by Porkchop Express
Penderbrook
Member since Aug 2014
3961 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by Fab4Freddy
Member since Nov 2011
1733 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:58 pm to
18 pages for this? don't feed the trolls.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29266 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:00 pm to
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belief that there is no God. Now prove it.


Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:00 pm to
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No I have no evidence that you exist.
Yet every response you issue here thoroughly contradicts that.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:02 pm to
Now we're just getting ridiculous. We all exist. We are sure of that. Some of us may be two "people" via alters, but we're getting into ridiculous stoner shite when we ask "Are we even real?"

Of course we're fricking real. I have no patience for this sort of silly discussion.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29266 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:03 pm to
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I have no patience for this sort of silly discussion.



it really is something, isn't it?
Posted by Porkchop Express
Penderbrook
Member since Aug 2014
3961 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

I have no patience for this sort of silly discussion.

it really is something, isn't it?


Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:05 pm to
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That is not how this works
Actually it is.
Layout your hypothesis of the origin of matter.

Let me guess. You have none.
Again, it's a high intellectual price to pay for your belief.

Posted by FT
REDACTED
Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:09 pm to
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NC_Tigah
Hey, look. A thread we might be able to join forces in!
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