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re: White people feeling the pangs of change
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:57 am to Zach
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:57 am to Zach
What else could we not do?
Vote
Attain the best educations that this nation offered
Own homes
Etc.
yes blacks were Better off when whites explicitly went out of their way to systematically oppress and damp their upward mobility.
You're a crook, and I'm glad that your line of thought is no longer tolerated in this country.
Vote
Attain the best educations that this nation offered
Own homes
Etc.
yes blacks were Better off when whites explicitly went out of their way to systematically oppress and damp their upward mobility.
You're a crook, and I'm glad that your line of thought is no longer tolerated in this country.
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:59 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:
Did your parents teach you certain values and did what they could to ensure your success?
Yes, they did. Do you think black parents are capable of the same thing or not?
LC
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:59 am to baybeefeetz
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white people losing their grip
Coming from a middle class family, I've never had a real "grip" on anything other than my own life. I don't have control over all of the circumstances that will affect my life, but I can control my reaction to them. I refuse to lose my character by blaming another group of people for my decisions or reactions to what I encounter in life. I hope I can keep this outlook if things really get bad, but right now it's the outlook on life that I try to follow.
So as far as "losing my grip" goes, I don't feel like I'm losing my grip over anything that I have had control over, or anything that I never had control over to begin with.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:59 am to PrimeTime Money
All I see here is post trying that explicitly remove any white culpalbility
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:00 am to StrongSafety
In some ways blacks were better off, at least most of the family units were intact in the 60's.
There were a lot of wrongs yes, but in some ways the destruction of the black nuclear family has been harder on them than segregation and Jim Crow.
There were a lot of wrongs yes, but in some ways the destruction of the black nuclear family has been harder on them than segregation and Jim Crow.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:01 am to AU86
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Geronimo and Sitting Bull say frick you.
My favorite political cartoon shows an Indian war party watching the Pilgrims land at Plymouth. The Chief says, "Ah nevermind. What harm could they possibly cause?"
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:01 am to StrongSafety
How long do I have to feel guilty for the sins of others? Just want to know how many decades I need to carry the shame.
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 10:04 am
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:02 am to baybeefeetz
quote:
maybe there is something to this whole "white people losing their grip" thing. Maybe I am, we whites are, just coming to terms with the fact that being white isn't going to be as awesome as it used to be. What do you think?
Nope. Not it.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:02 am to StrongSafety
with time, that culpability is decreased
if you don't accept that, then you're just creating a victim mentality/complex.
i reject that mindset in all areas. it's just common with race today. one problem with an abundant society is the victim complex
if you don't accept that, then you're just creating a victim mentality/complex.
i reject that mindset in all areas. it's just common with race today. one problem with an abundant society is the victim complex
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:03 am to StrongSafety
I feel no culpability towards the present day situation in the black community. Explain to me how I should be held responsible for things that happened in the past and were beyond my control and I will get back to you.
I refuse to take responsibility for choices that other people have made.
I refuse to take responsibility for choices that other people have made.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:04 am to baybeefeetz
OP:
I think that you have totally bought into and embraced the entire portion of the Leftist Agenda that pertains to attacking the "fault lines" of the US society of ordered liberty.
According to Leftism, this US society of ordered liberty must be cracked and seriously weakened before most of the US electorate will embrace a new society based on socialist/collectivist principles.
IF the Left can perpetrate a more serious outbreak of violence/assassinations between groups on opposite sides of the fault lines, the political power of the Left can only increase.
These are my thoughts.
I think that you have totally bought into and embraced the entire portion of the Leftist Agenda that pertains to attacking the "fault lines" of the US society of ordered liberty.
According to Leftism, this US society of ordered liberty must be cracked and seriously weakened before most of the US electorate will embrace a new society based on socialist/collectivist principles.
IF the Left can perpetrate a more serious outbreak of violence/assassinations between groups on opposite sides of the fault lines, the political power of the Left can only increase.
These are my thoughts.
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 10:22 am
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:05 am to Zach
quote:
Were you there? I was. 1960 was great for blacks compared to today. They graduated from HS, had jobs, got married, raised their kids, didn't do drugs and didn't commit crime. Now, I agree that if they did all those things today they would be better off than 1960. But they don't.
And couldn't eat where they wanted or get a home loan.
Awesome times, bro!
Are you seriously that stupid?
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:05 am to antibarner
Say , hypothetically, that an ancestor of mine was killed by a black man. Do black people owe me anything because of this?
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:05 am to StrongSafety
quote:
Vote
My Daughter in law cannot vote. She doesn't give a shite. She's living the good life.
quote:
Attain the best educations that this nation offered
K-12 education in black schools in 1960 was better than what they are experiencing today in Basic (or low level) phasing until they drop out. See Thomas Sowell on this.
quote:
Own homes
Uh, blacks could own homes in 1960.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:06 am to antibarner
quote:
I feel no culpability towards the present day situation in the black community. Explain to me how I should be held responsible for things that happened in the past and were beyond my control and I will get back to you.
not only this. my family, on both sides, was poor and was just as disenfranchised. my grandmother is from trinidad also and was discriminated against (she lived in the northeast, and it mattered there). not only do i reject any personal culpability, i reject any acceptance of any negative consequence of the discrimination my family faced
why? because i didn't fricking experience it. they did. and even if i did, i wouldn't sulk as a victim to create my self-identity. bad shite happens to people. you learn that, try to figure out a way to improve yourself within the system, and move on. maybe one day if you improve yourself enough, you'll put yourself in a position to change the system to make it better.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:07 am to EZE Tiger Fan
quote:
ALL POLS are the same. They are all getting rich on our dime. There is a reason the members of Congress are the wealthiest Americans around.
Well that's part of the frustration though isn't it? Clearly people sent a message in this last election that they didn't like what was going on in this country, and again, it wasn't heeded.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:08 am to StrongSafety
quote:
All I see here is post trying that explicitly remove any white culpalbility
Still avoiding responsibility for everything. Keep leaning on that crutch.
And things will stay just as they are, but apparently lots of black people love it that way. Otherwise they'd pull themselves out of the ditch instead of blaming whitey.
LC
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:09 am to mahdragonz
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And couldn't eat where they wanted or get a home loan.
I couldn't eat where I wanted in 1960. We were dirt poor. I didn't blame other people for it. And blacks could get home loans. If you qualified financially which is the way it should be.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:10 am to Zach
Hell, I can't walk up to Augusta National today and get in. A lot of places are beyond my means.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:12 am to KCT
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Oh, and did I mention this phony bullshite is only going to get worse?
It is going to get worse because of the many who are working overtime to make sure that it does get worse.
Only after THIS society is weakened and discredited can a new socialist society rise to be accepted.
This is The Long March of the Left.
Our great grand-children will accept the new society because they will want peace. They will grow very tired of living with the sins of their fathers, so, they will accept a new society rooted in socialism and collectivist principles.
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 10:14 am
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