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re: what exactly is LSU's offense philosophy?

Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:33 pm to
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:33 pm to
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when you almost always run on 1st and 2nd down and only throw when you have to, that is a conservative offense
no its. Not when youre handing the ball to a rb having the 2nd greatest rushing season in lsu history. Top 12 IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY IN YARDS PER PLAY says we werent conservative at all. Only 8 teams out of 126 scored more points per play. Thats not conservative. So stop sayjng it. FACTS PROVE YOU WRONG. Not my opinion. Facts. Do i need to explain what a fact is.
Posted by nm1230
Nashville, TN
Member since Oct 2011
698 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:42 pm to
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FACTS PROVE THAT. I think youre under the impression that this is my opinion


It is your opinion. Not fact.
Posted by nm1230
Nashville, TN
Member since Oct 2011
698 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:45 pm to
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Do i need to explain what a fact is.


Yes explain it. What you a are doing is posting statistics to justify your opinion.

Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16036 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:26 pm to
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Not when youre handing the ball to a rb having the 2nd greatest rushing season in lsu history.


when the defense is putting 9 in the box because they know you are going to run the ball it is conservative. Just think of what he could have gained if they didn't know what was coming and weren't stacking the box. Think of how great the passing game could have been if we weren't for the most part just throwing the ball when the defenses knew we were going to throw. That's all I'm saying. We should have been trying to get the most out of personnel and going for greatness on offense to make up for the defense we had last year that wasn't up to usual LSU standards. The goal at the beginning of every year should be to try to win the SEC west first and foremost and not just say this is a rebuilding year. Last year it was the defense, this year it was the offense, next year the excuse will be the o-line. It's always something. That's why you have to maximize what you do have. It's college football, every year your going to have some weekness. We don't have the luxery of having #1 rated recruiting classes each and every year but we do have enough talent to work with.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16036 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:31 pm to
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Do i need to explain what a fact is.

you need to get away from hyperbole and attempts at insults. I know I sometimes get frustrated and go there myself but am trying to be a better person. You should also. It really doesn't accomplish anything.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16466 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 12:06 am to
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The goal at the beginning of every year should be to try to win the SEC west first and foremost and not just say this is a rebuilding year.


This x a big# exp big#.

A lot of the criticism directed toward Les is unwarranted. But this is one is full of merit. Les needs to frame wins and losses in terms of how they affect our prospects of getting to Atlanta, GA. But he doesn’t. Les takes an atomistic approach, i.e., every game is a self-contained conquest for “victory.” It’s part and parcel of his football philosophy. What ought to happen is for Les to use every interview opportunity to foster a culture of playing for championships.
Posted by Tiger_T57
Madison, Ms
Member since Oct 2014
407 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 12:42 am to
Run Run Pass and maybe punt
Posted by Boudreaux in SF
silicon valley
Member since May 2005
530 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 1:01 am to
Being on the West Coast, my selection of early game viewing was the Bengals vs. Browns game. I know a lot has been said since Sunday regarding the Defensive Staff of the Bengals watching LSU vs. aTm tape....but watching the Bengals Offensive had me thinking LSU offense. If you haven't watched that game, do so and that should answer your question.

ETA: LINK Link to box score. Notice the 45 rushing atts. to 24 passes and the TOP 38 to 21. When the offensive and defense are clicking this should be a good example of the results. Hope this helps answer your question.
This post was edited on 12/20/14 at 1:08 am
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10947 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 3:11 am to
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Thou Shalt Not Pass.
Because Thou recruits quarterbacks that can't pass........or read defenses.........or learn the playbook.......or go through progressions, but thou said QB's can most certainly run fast.

Thou shaint win no Championships with thyself.........
Posted by 11thACR
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Mar 2012
1652 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 5:57 am to
Whatever the HELL the QB's can grasp.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:02 am to
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when the defense is putting 9 in the box because they know you are going to run the ball it is conservativ


That did not happen last year. We did not consistently run into 9 man fronts. It did this year
This post was edited on 12/20/14 at 7:03 am
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:04 am to
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Think of how great the passing game could have been if we weren't for the most part just throwing the ball when the defenses knew we were going to throw


FACTS prove you are wrong.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:05 am to
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Yes explain it. What you a are doing is posting statistics to justify your opinion. 



Na I'm posting facts that prove we werent conservative last year.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:06 am to
Na. Met throwing the ball more than every qb except 5 in the Sec, and almost setting the the lsu passing record proves we were not conservative.deal with it.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:08 am to
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We should have been trying to get the most out of personnel and going for greatness on offense to make up for the defense we had last year that wasn't up to usual LSU standards.


Like we did against Georgia? Who won that game?
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:13 am to
Its mind boggling how LSU fan werent happy with our 2013 offense. Mett was 260 yards away from throwing for more yards in a season than any lsu qb, EVER and JHill was setting the sec single season ypc record.WTF.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:24 am to
We averaged 68 Plays per Game last year..
25 Passing
43 Rushing

No coach in the country at ANY level WANTS his QB to throw 30 times a game.

People like to point out that we had an NFL QB and two NFL WRs on our team last year. We also had two NFL RBs... or more depending on Magee and Hillard, though I wouldn't expect either to play outside of ST as an NFL rookie.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:45 am to
They act like handing the ball to JHill was just some conservative plays. How many times did we see JHill break 50 yard runs? Id be willing to bet JHill had as many 40+ yard runs than any LsU rb in a 2 year span..he did it almost every other game.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:46 am to
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People like to point out that we had an NFL QB and two NFL WRs on our team last year. We also had two NFL RBs... or more depending on Magee and Hillard, though I wouldn't expect either to play outside of ST as an NFL rookie.



You never know with rbs though. Who wouldve guessed Alfred Blue would be more successful than TRent Richardson.
Posted by nm1230
Nashville, TN
Member since Oct 2011
698 posts
Posted on 12/20/14 at 9:21 am to
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quote:
Yes explain it. What you a are doing is posting statistics to justify your opinion.


Na I'm posting facts that prove we werent conservative last year.

No. You are posting statistics to justify your opinion.

My opinion is that LSU was conservative. I'm basing this on the fact that they attempted so few plays and ran the ball 62% of the time. I can use stats to justify my opinion but that doesn't make it anything more than my opinion.

Also, previously held LSU individual records are irrelevant to a discussion comparing LSU's offense to the rest of the SEC or CFB in a given season.
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