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re: Proposed Bill Would Require Women To Ask Men's Permission To Have An Abortion
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:12 pm to StringedInstruments
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:12 pm to StringedInstruments
quote:
but it's not like a woman has to sign off on a man getting a vasectomy.
Consent is not required, but common sense dictates that most urologists will inquire if they have discussed it with their significant other. Some urologists would object to performing the procedure on a man who has a very vocal significant other who objects (at that point the patient is encouraged to get a second opinion or find a provider who is comfortable with the scenario).
Fortunately this is not a very common problem.
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:14 pm to Bard
From a woman's perspective, I do think that the father should have a say in whether the couple's baby lives or dies. I do have an issue with how this bill is worded and with the domestic violence part and perhaps that can be worked on and altered. The life and safety of both mother and baby are important. I despise women who deny the fathers any rights but then go to great lengths to make sure they get every penny of child support they can squeeze out of him. Whatever animosity there is (and I'm not referring to violence here, but a more or less 'normal' divorce, if there is such a thing) is between the spouses, and the baby has no fault.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:17 pm to conservativewifeymom
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From a woman's perspective, I do think that the father should have a say in whether the couple's baby lives or dies. I do have an issue with how this bill is worded and with the domestic violence part and perhaps that can be worked on and altered. The life and safety of both mother and baby are important. I despise women who deny the fathers any rights but then go to great lengths to make sure they get every penny of child support they can squeeze out of him. Whatever animosity there is (and I'm not referring to violence here, but a more or less 'normal' divorce, if there is such a thing) is between the spouses, and the baby has no fault.
There is an easy solution to all of this.
Use a god damn condom.
Sorry guys you have no rights to a woman's body.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:18 pm to asurob1
Are you suggesting that condoms are 100% reliable? Research and warnings on the boxes would suggest otherwise.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:18 pm to asurob1
quote:Agreed. Plus look at all the pills and education we have today. Abortion as a form of birth control is pure evil.
There is an easy solution to all of this.
Use a god damn condom.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:23 pm to genro
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Abortion as a form of birth control is pure evil.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:24 pm to LeonPhelps
quote:(1) LeonPhelps, anybody ever stuff a butternut squash up your arse?
I will never understand the liberal stance that murdering innocent babies is perfectly fine so long as the mother is not inconvenienced
Because let me guarantee you, passing it is an """inconvenience""".
Welcome to a mild form of childbirth.
(2) LeonPhelps, have you ever received multiple blood transfusions (maybe in conjunction with trying to pass that butternut squash)?
Because I'll assure you related complications are an """inconvenience""".
Transfusion related Hepatitis, AIDS, reactions, etc.? They happen.
(3) LeonPhelps, have you ever undergone Abdominal Surgery?
Because I'll promise you, it is indeed an inconvenience.
Hurts like hell.
(4) Ever had surgical complications?
Make #(3) feel like child's play.
(5) Ever die during a medical procedure? You know . . . . my guess would be . . . . no.
No, it is pretty damn obvious you have not died during a medical procedure!
Why? . . . . .
Because if you had, you at least know it damn well was an """inconvenience""".
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:26 pm to OMLandshark
quote:
Well, it's very fortunately the world you live in, and you like it whether you know it or not. If I were to transport you to an alternate reality where an abortion had never been performed, you'd be begging to come back to this one instantly.
Care to elaborate why you have come to this conclusion?
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:28 pm to asurob1
quote:
use a condom
No, do not have sex outside the bounds of marriage.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:28 pm to STEVED00
There would be more black and poor people.
That's the whole point of abortion. To get rid of them. Seriously, look it up.
That's the whole point of abortion. To get rid of them. Seriously, look it up.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:28 pm to StringedInstruments
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Proposed Bill Would Require Women To Ask Men's Permission To Have An Abortion
I don't think women should need permission from the men. Just that if a man doesn't want a the child he should be able to opt of out child support if she still wants the kid and he doesn't.
Of course they are making us all pay already right now for all these bastard kids out there.
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:30 pm to STEVED00
There's no scientific or medical procedure to verify a fathers legal right to the fetus.
He can't prove it's his
Dumb idea.
He can't prove it's his
Dumb idea.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:33 pm to mahdragonz
quote:There are in vitro paternity tests. I know because I googled "in vitro paternity test" instead of just pretending to be a doctor.
There's no scientific or medical procedure to verify a fathers legal right to the fetus.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:35 pm to ThinePreparedAni
quote:
Consent is not required, but common sense dictates that most urologists will inquire if they have discussed it with their significant other. Some urologists would object to performing the procedure on a man who has a very vocal significant other who objects (at that point the patient is encouraged to get a second opinion or find a provider who is comfortable with the scenario).
Fortunately this is not a very common problem.
i was denied a vasectomy b.c i didn't have kids. Dr was an a-hole, found a new dr.
to OP, this is a great idea by missouri republicans for making sure that HRC is elected. why can't thye just shut the frick up?
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:36 pm to genro
A man cannot force a woman into a medical procedure.
Also, in vitro paternity is fine later in a pregnancy. There's no way to do if in the first trimester.
Also, in vitro paternity is fine later in a pregnancy. There's no way to do if in the first trimester.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:37 pm to mahdragonz
quote:And yet, a woman can kill a man's child.
A man cannot force a woman into a medical procedure.
Equality
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:37 pm to asurob1
quote:
Sorry guys you have no rights to a woman's body.
I disagree with this. If I want a kid, and she wants nothing to do with it, and so long as I support her throughout the pregnancy, I should be allowed to raise the kid by myself if I choose. I really don't look at abortion as an absolute issue and look at it case by case. I sympathize with Michael Corleone.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:39 pm to genro
A woman isn't forcing a man into a medical condition.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:39 pm to beulahland
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No, do not have sex outside the bounds of marriage.
Yeah, because that's worked so well in the past.
If people want to frick, then they're going to frick. Nothing is going to stop someone, but we need to make sure they're properly armed for such an endeavor.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:44 pm to genro
quote:
there is bruising and tearing.
RIPPING AND THE TEARING
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